Otokonoko
I liked the pilot excuse as well. The fact is it is inexperienced pilots that would fly into a building and in this case the intent was to fly into the building, no real expertise really needed other than just aim and fly.

I have looked at some of thos CDs and some of the claims are illogical.

The 'Truth Movement' encourages people to think but they must also use that motto to entertain other possibilities for themselves. There is no point in arguing that X happened so it must have been because of Y when really it could be A, B or C or none of the above. It seems the 9/11 truth movement always jumps to the worst conclusion.

While I don't always have faith in governments and there is no doubt there are people within government agencies that cannot be trusted, people should be encouraged to scrutinise what is fed through the media but that is applicable for conspiracy theorists as well.

How could such a large conspiracy be managed without leaks and whistleblowers coming forward.

Maybe one day Arjay you can tell us we were all wrong if more information comes to light, but if it doesn't it also remains much more difficult to prove no conspiracy to people who have already made up their minds.

pelican...a basic error
the 'truth movement''is not a generic alternative

we agree and disagree in many aspects..
indeed we are as diverse as the sleepers

see personally..im not into the alian thing
but many are..but in no way all

we can all be wrong..
as well as occasionally right
we come in all..shapes and sizes and beliefs

some dont believe the 911 thing..
others dont believe the obama/birther thing
but the one thiong we all respect is that truth must be able to be asked for validation..

again we all have different levels
different areas of intrest..more passions really
these passions will help us wade through hundreds of hours of vidio..or read tombs of volumous reports..or collect files..just trying to join the dots

to have people casually say were all nutters
well thats just an over simplification

think of it like your child was normal
then a few days after getting a compulsory vacination
it went into zombie mode...think how motivated that mother is to find out why..

many have been abused or locked up..or beat up
or just told to shut up..well im fed up of being told lies
but crazey enough to know god is love..that i must try to love

anyhow i will quote you

''people should be encouraged to scrutinise""
that needs motivation..its teadious
the summeries we post..has takern years/decades to find its proof

''How could such a large conspiracy
be managed without leaks and whistleblowers coming forward.""

I HAVE TALKED WITH MANY
the thing is its only too easy
[to make sure you cant get anywhere near wikipedia..or bbc or any media that will help...i have had many computers die...been burned out 3 times...been before high court judges..talked top polititions..

given out books handouts summeries..
talked with influential people..worked alone..worked with others

now i mostly just blog

and to hell with what others think they know
i only know what i know

trty again...lol

just as you can only
know what you know

sometimes its just more important
to listen..than be heard

as we know..the system knows well
how to protect itself

""Maybe one day Arjay
you can tell us we were all wrong
if more information comes to light,"""

lol..see how people talk..like im not even here
the info is all there...but..[it is only found..by looking]

and never found...if the powers that keep secrets want it to not be found

""but if it doesn't
it also remains much more difficult
to prove no conspiracy to people who have already made up their minds.""

they are luckey
its not till more of you
feel the omnipotant forces
move against your thinking..

and try to shut you down,
by ridicules
incarceration..
phyc testing..jail..fire..theft..
disinfranchising you from family friends/peers and society

only then will they join us
with some really strange new theory

but hey we heard them all..
but go ahead..speak
we are listening

but first..
ya got any proof?

oh they kept it
who is they?

lol

i got disconected from web
just trying to post this

of course it happens a few times each time i go online
that and extreemly slow computer..or partial downloads

but hey thats just dodo being a bad server...
not that they read our posts as we type..in real time
but why would they bother..im only repeating things others say

personally i only know
the known knowns that i know
be thankfull you dont have a driving/need..to know[or worse be heard]

far easier to be herd
baaaa baaaa baaa
[just teasing]

ok still not posting
ok try my post quick
[on a new page trick]

Gentle men and women, I hope you all stand corrected.
Arjay and one under God have informed us over and again we are uninformed, being had.
So maybe he is a live, America shot its movie on the same set it shot the moon landings and planned to destroy the twin towers.
I must be wrong, I thought if they bought him back alive the mass murders our Friends are supporting may kill thousands to free him.
Or that if they bought his body back, it would be seen to be holding him back from those 72 virgins he has been promised.
Just maybe giving him a Muslim burial, and filming it, was to show America has far more respect than those slitting throats and saying the hand that did it is blessed.
He is dead, some I ask this of, conspiracy's that are so very wrong have two types spreading them.
Those who are easily duped and those who have purpose in repeating lies.
A third is a possibility, some never grew out of comic books and world champion wrestling, an easy out there folks.

Talking about those who are easily duped....

Who knows what all this hoopla is about, but it has surely been choreographed and directed to within an inch of its life - shame the "details" keep changing every 24 hours, don't you think.
It sort of makes it hard to follow each act of the play.

Though, never mind, the show must go on....

I like your idea of American "respect" - blasting someone's brains out...but giving them a "decent" burial (or dunking, whichever the case may be).

Don't you find it all rather a little too stage managed?

*shame the "details" keep changing every 24 hours, don't you think.*

Not really Poirot. Its just about realpolitik versus a certain
amount of Govt spin, which all Govts do.

First the story came out that the Govt wanted people to hear,
he died with a gun in his hand. Then somebody clicked that around
8 kids were there and some women, who at sometime will tell what
really happened. So it was wise to come clean, as it did happen,
they shot him without a gun.

Reality dominates. Its a war, people die. No point dragging this
on for 10 years and having countless hostages killed.

All the rest simply does not matter.