Otokonoko,Correction sinking the Lusitania brought the yanks into the war in 1915.It was the assassination of Prince Ferdinand which precipitated WW1.I 've never said that Al Qaeda does not exist.The BBC doco says they were not found in Afghanistan.I said that Bin Laden was probably killed in 2001 at Tora Bora.

My personal view is that Al Qaeda is a CIA invention.The Bin Laden family had financial dealings with the Bush family.After 911 the Bin laden family was the only ones allowed to fly anywhere.They flew back home to Saudi Arabia.

arjay...quote...
..."Collapsing empires often bring on wars
to try and delay the inevitable.""

it never is inevitable
nothing that cant change in a second

people wake suddenly from nighmares
[funny enough the name i was married under]

but im destracted[stonned and trired[belly will jump on that one..when its his fault i got no tobacco
himand than darnnn julier..made dope cheaper thanm smoke

but on with the show

""Our sun{AnA}..when it{she}..reaches the end
she will expand and explode.""

yes thats basic science
BUT..the star burns red...hot..burned away the atmoshere long before,,,she explodes[gives birth seed for other new earths
menm have that long to soprt things
[think its 25 dec 2012...any advice?

""WE...go*Out
with a bang and not a whimper
seems to be the determination of psychotic minds."""

no mate
we got the solution right here

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4432&page=0

read it and weep
its a peaxce treaty
[belly we need a new post topic]

anyhow look at link
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4432&page=0

answer to me
is that a sol-ution..or what?

anyhow..too many words
much more to come
but could..be..

...should be done
right now...!

asp?

BELLY/quote

""So America is telling lies?
Not so.....?""

how so?

ok bells
please tell me
what has just happend

*all the media reported on it

what is the TRUTH?

Much better.

I give you a hard time here because I think a lot of your assertions are a little absurd, but you're certainly right to voice what you think.

As for the Lusitania, at least you raised something refreshingly new and under-discussed. Whether or not the poms wanted it sunk is an interesting question. It was carrying munitions, it was listed as a potential warship, details for its protection were bungled in Pythonesque style ... they might as well have painted a target on it. It was a sitting duck, and certainly a very useful PR tool for the Brits. It also helped to lure the Americans into the war, though they dithered about for a couple of years before joining.

And bin Laden ... I don't believe that he has been long dead, and I don't think America will win any friends as details of his summary execution continue to emerge. I can't bring myself to say that ANYBODY - evil or otherwise - deserves to die, and I was a little sick in the stomach when I saw the headlines proclaiming that justice had been served. In a way, I think the whole War on Terror has been a terrible real-life reenactment of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, and in Frankenstein I always felt a little sorry for the monster. Not even the Yanks deny that they contributed to the creation of this beast; they fuelled its hopes, dreams and revolutionary plans; then, when it was no longer of any use, they cut it off, allowed it to turn against them and sought to kill it.

I can't and don't intend to condone anything bin Laden and his followers have done. I will never say that the Americans deserved what they got way back in '01, and I can't say that I empathise or even sympathise with Al Qaeda. I can say, though, that it is my belief that nothing from the beginning to the end of this sorry saga has anything to do with justice, integrity or any of those values we in the West hold so proudly.

Arjay in your rant about the start of ww 1 you got as close to truth as you ever have.
About a billion light years
OUG bloke I stand by my right to be different than you.
Try folks not to be fooled.
Any thinking human knows America lies.
The same surely can be said about any government in the world, hence Weakileaks.
In just Pakistan, just one nation, more lies murders and contemptible acts are committed on any day, than in Americas whole history.
America murdered this man?
So what?
Are we blind to those he killed/will be killed in his name.
Can we ignore his death will unleash thousands of deaths , no fair play in those murders
This world is not ruled by any God, if it was it would be Her/Him we should charge with war crimes.
Our fate is in our hands, this man bought death on innocents, I will not engage in how or why he died.
But I will say thank you America, the world is a better place.

OUG bloke you must not take me for a fool.
I was well aware you are sometimes stoned when posting.
However I admit to no being able to tell when you are not.
Enjoy, but over use can hurt.

It is all our interests to stop the expansion of the wars.Belly, have a talk to Kevin Bracken.He is one of the few Unionists who has the courage to speak the truth.Jon Faine will not be inviting him back for his requested debate on 911.Faine is far more articulate than Kevin yet he won't debate him on the truth.