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BBC;Al Qaeda does not exist.

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Your thought processes are always tough to follow, Arjay. But these are odder than most.

>>Germany warned the Poms not to put this ship in jepody but they wanted a war for profit at the behest of central banksters<<

Which central banksters did the Germans represent in 1915? More to the point, how do you imagine that WWI actually met any of their objectives? After all, the damage inflicted on their economy lasted until the 1960s.

>>WW2 was a result of WW1 and Germany being sent broke by the British Imperialists.<<

That's a theory. A more likely one is that it was Clemenceau, whose government considered Woodrow Wilson's proposed plan far too lenient on the Germans, who was primarily responsible for the massive reparation bill.

>>We warned the yanks that the Japs were on the way to Pearl Harbour.They let it happen.<<

Whenever there is an opportunity to choose between devilish conspiracy and the possibility of incompetence, or poor communication, or even post-event fabrication, you make a bee-line for the conspiracy theory.

Anyway, who are the "we"? Australia?

>>Japan went to war because of trade embagoes by us and fear of being starved of energy.<<

Again, who's the "us" here?

But to pin the blame on a single cause is naive in the extreme, given Japan's history of military expansionism since WWI.

Contributing factors were Japan's invasion of Manchuria in 1931, the assassination of Prime Minister Inukai Tsuyoshi in 1932 by the Japanese military, their alliance in 1936 with the Fascists in Germany and Italy through the Comintern Pact, the second Sino-Japanese War of 1937, their border wars with Russia in 1938 and so on. The embargo itself was, in this context, a supremely irrelevant occurrence.

>>Vietnam was a war for arms sales and chemicals.It was no threat to us.<<

Vietnam was simply a continuation of the "red peril" paranoia that also created the Korean War - how come you missed that one from your list, by the way?

>>This war is the end game.It is all or nothing exercise.They want global domination<<

Ummmm.... who are "they", again?
Posted by Pericles, Friday, 6 May 2011 9:15:35 AM
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pericules/quote..""More to the point, how do you imagine that WWI actually met any of their objectives?""

the resession..was the excuse..the natzies used
to create jobs...

work for..those not working

building auto-bans etc
that later
will enable the flash/movment of ARMED-force..to invade others

>>the damage inflicted on their economy..lasted until the 1960s""

yes buy in rebuilding..there was WORK*
jobs/jobs/jobs

rebuilding industies
with the new teqnology

[imagine back
to when west geermany
reunited with the east..[recall all the old ruskie
[ussr]..factories...were OBSOLETE*

during ww2..the factories were destroyed
needing to be rebuilt..then kept uptodate with export goods
[war..reparerations]

>>Germany..sent broke..!

Clemenceau,whose government considered
Woodrow Wilson's proposed plan
..far too lenient on the Germans,
who was primarily responsible..for the massive reparation*bill.""

bill...OWED TO WHO?

"">>Pearl Harbour...They let it happen.<<

choose between devilish conspiracy
and the possibility..of incompetence,
or poor communication,or even post-event...*fabrication,...lol

>>Japan went to war/trade/embagoes by us
and fear..*..the assets

TRADE embargo...!

""But..blame on a single cause is naive in the extreme,
given Japan's history of military expansionism since WWI.""

of course
these things are ALLWAYS multifacited



""Contributing factors
invasion of Manchuria in 1931,
the assassination of Prime Minister Inukai Tsuyoshi in 1932

their alliance in 1936 with the Fascists in Germany
and Italy through the Comintern Pact,

the second Sino-Japanese War of 1937,
their border wars with Russia in 1938 and so on.

The embargo itself was,
in this context, a supremely irrelevant occurrence.""""

i agree with arjay
the trade embargo HURT....

>>Vietnam was a war for arms sales and chemicals.
It was no threat to us.<<

""Vietnam...continuation of the "red peril" paranoia""

THAT MADE ARMS DEAL:ERS RICH
think of the naplalm bill...!
alone

first used on japan
killed MILLIONS..

>>This war is the end game.
It is all or nothing exercise.They want global domination<<

Ummmm....who are "they",...again?""

they is clearly
the inbred elites*

who hoard all the board-seats
who insider trade..

who are the FAMILIES
that constantly..are in power

old money
dear perri

those 1 percent that..own 'the world'
those with billions
in assets..or credit

those who are 5 star..all the way..
got the family-trust

run everything
Posted by one under god, Friday, 6 May 2011 1:40:13 PM
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Current generations did not invent sex drugs rock n roll.
I have been stoned, boy have I been stoned.
Gave it up long ago, only played with it , but played hard.
Found some thing better
REALITY.
Reading arjay and OUG here reminds me, you can see it here,history books shoved in a shredder and little tiny bits picked up.
And a history that never was re drawn/manufactured.
I have spent a lifetime fighting story's such as this, about unions/workers the ALP too many defenses of fairness understanding and truth.
Had we lost any of these wars, apart from the Asian one we did , or the religious one we may yet, our two posters would be heads on a stick out side the gates of a city ruled by those who do not think free speech includes truth.
Overlook the true intentions of these murderers, forgive them a hate based ignorance, tell us they are ok we are not but understand my Friends over your shoulder,any day Any hour a bomb may go off.
You do not have virgins waiting you in heaven.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 6 May 2011 2:23:26 PM
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we love you too belly
if ya ever comming to redlands
look me up..[grayham will send email details]

but mate
the heads on a stick
thats el quarda telliban stuff mate

belly...we would be best of mates
but lets think back

i was once a bikie
my mates went to a commie
to buy their drugs...[70's]

they were active here as you MUST KNOW

mate we have done the research
and not doing it for any ugly ''vir-jinns''
but because we care about what happens..pure and simple

mate you care
the way you do

and let us care the way
we do

anyhow
if only you would read the links
there is a whiole plan ..in its bits
if people want it

but notring you didnt give a tileline of events
do you even notice how much has 'changed'..in the story

ie binnie didnt hide behind 'wife'
didnt have a gun

wife tried to defend the guy
hadnt left his room for 5 years
this poor fool...was inside a prison

he was in hell

but how come
26 brave mariens..can attack him
but not go in and bring out gadaffey

ie a real mission...not shooting..a sick ol farrrt
then rewriting what really happend
Posted by one under god, Friday, 6 May 2011 2:48:56 PM
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Pericles,we will never agree so why bother posting? It is basicly the banks who own the US Federal Reserve who have perpetrated both world wars, Vietnam and the new one evolving now.

These elite of the likes of Rothschild,JP Morgan and Rockerfeller leave the likes of Bill Gates in the dust in terms of wealth.The true value of their wealth is well hidden.The Rothshcilds alone have wealth est to be 5 times our GDP.It could be much more since they have enough power to silence the detractors.

The hidden Govt both here and the rest of the West is real and potent.The best site in my view is http://www.globalresearch.ca/ Study it carefully Pericles,since your future depends upon a new concept in your reality,ie truth and integrity.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 6 May 2011 8:23:05 PM
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Reality Truth Integrity.
Strange words ,not the words but coming after the two posts above this one.
I find this miss use of those very valuable words ofensive.
Over night the group said not to exist, have announced indeed the hate filled fool is dead.
And that they will kill many, in his name.
We see that he was assassinated, but nothing of his victims.
That his burial was against the rules of his God, but nothing of the body's splashed up against walls all over the world in bomb explosions.
More of them Muslim than not.
Even in enclaves within my country this person is being celebrated.
Humanity screams to me, why not be one?
We can never be,even without a God, any God, we would see huge releases of hate, coming together and end to our differences.
But some intent on hating America are just as intent on ignoring others far worse sins.
Truth integrity and reality has little value for some.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 7 May 2011 6:09:18 AM
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