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BBC;Al Qaeda does not exist.
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Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 8:11:26 AM
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Al Qaeda is not a homogenous group. It is not have an org chart with tiered levels of management like other organisationss. It is fragmented and many groups have no resemeblance to Al Qaeda having developed their own offshoots and networks years ago.
You do have to wonder about some aspects of the national security agenda though, why was OBL's body buried at sea. The reason offered is to ensure his grave does not become a Shrine for martyrs. A Shrine does not need a body to make it a destination for martyrs. His death alone makes him a martyr, the burial place is insignificant. OBL's death will not change the nature of terrorism. DNA tests prove it was OBL but we all know US administrations are not always full on with the truth. Why did US officials (as now revealed by Wikileaks cables) report no knowledge of OBL for years to the public but CIA reports sightings of him at meetings and other venues for years. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297916/Wikileaks-reveals-Osama-Bin-Laden-seen-village-meetings.html I don't claim to know the truth of these matters, but I do know that it is foolish to take on board whatever hype is dished up by governments via the media, and there is evidence by the aggressive responses to whistleblowers that there is some room for scrutiny. The fact is some governments sometimes do treat their citizenry with contempt. Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 8:56:57 AM
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Come Pelican you are much more intelligent than that.
Let us look at the thread and its wanderings. Have any of us who claim understanding any doubt, no government tells the truth always? But talk about the western world, ok if you like America England and us, now who then is trust worthy? Saudi Arabia? can we tell our selves Bin Laden was in Pakistan just yards from that country's military HQ unknown. And our crimes, the wests, count every one, did they mostly start after this lunatic planned payed for, and celebrated 9/11? I from left of center hurt still at Americas intervention in Chile, its bloody hands in that mass murder. I know, history will confirm, its part in over throwing our government in 1975. I also know this war, it is such, is no cold war, how can any of us, the left for sure and certain support or even part support mass murders by children used as bombs, promised life ever after in heaven. Rather than yell the truth Americas good out ways its bad, we would be dead or slaves in our own country without them. Looking for lies, deceit, look no further than Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, look to to a Holly book that says lieing to us nonbelievers, is not just ok but recommended. Know A conspiracy of lies is behind some posters , and that they like flys trapped on sticky paper never know the truth.. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:22:38 PM
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Thanks for the support OUG.Those who live by lies and deception will surely perish by them.
Thankfully more and more people are questioning 911 and the farcical story of this disorganised pathic group pulling off such a complex attack.There must be another flase flag event coming soon.It will probably be in the USA.They look like trying to blame Pakistan because they are already accusing Pakistan of hiding Bin Laden. According to Zibigniew Brezezinski the CIA were training/supplying weapons to the Mujahadeen in July 1979 before the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.They were trying to suck the USSR into Afghanistan for their Vietnam and break them,which they did.So they were training up the very so called terrorists whom they are fighting now. In his book 'The Grand Chessboard' Zibigniew Brezezinski said in 1997,"What we need is a truely massive and widely perceived direct external threat." That threat was terrorism to replace the fear of the communists.This is how Govts keep their pops in check and confused so they won't see how they are being screwed. Notice how Rumsfeld exaggerated the threat of Al Qaeda saying they had many sophistocated underground fortresses and not one was found.They had not the sophistocation to plan 911 let alone pull it off.How did they manufacture the explosive nano thermite and place it in all 3 WTC buildings without being caught? The stats are supposed to be that 55% of USA suspect or don't believe the official story of 911 but the media persists in supporting the official ridiculous story. With the supposed death of Bin Laden they are moving to a new tack.The USA is expanding the wars of imperialism and getting China/Russia really off side.We can see it but the lemmings around us are racing towards the cliff with eyes closed. Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:40:12 PM
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im mostly in agreement..with belly
at least we finally know officially the rubbush-bin*larden..is dead it took long enough to reveal this im not angry..that it took so long understanding..that timming is everything what im angry about..is the pap..the media is selling and the organised sell-i/brat-ions.. not that..the cia stooge media bogey-man..is dead lets revise..the facts [so maybe next/time..they try to sell us lies they might just..try to be..more honest] bin larden..has been dead for years [for the simple reason he was..*tied to dialisis machines] if he was getting dialisis..[were he living]..we would have found him easy ps they found..no dialisis machine..in the house nor the blood..these things use applenty the dude killed thought he was in a safe house were it bin larden..his kids would have dna his wife..wives..would have been there..or on media [and simply speaking..the silence speaks heaps..there alone] but lets go furher he was shot..twice in the face once through his left/eye..and one..his forhead had the shots gone..to where they practiced to shoot..the patsy the bulbous non bin larden *nose would have looked more convincing but the silly b...moved his head to the left..to look what was going on at the window..[again timming is everything] anyhow they got hair...dna tested in hours when dna testing..*takes two whole days there was plenty of blood on the scene two big blotches...so there would be tapes recording his last words/the whole 'action' possably have..him saying..*im not him anyhow there egsists..live footage..of the whole event [headquaters had a live helmit cam feed]... this wont be produced they got rid of..the body at the same time..apparently burned the house down destroying all evidence [yet the troops..*would have blood on their boots in the helicopter..etc etc]..test that clearly the bin larden..*killed is another bin larden/doppleganger strangly he didnt resemble..the other 4 used for mossad/and other..pr purposes on the..other urgent detraction times..over the past years if only they had killed him through his nose like they planned anyhow the fake..and the myth is dead long live the truth next comes..making-up..iran lies 4..war..ww3 Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 1:02:36 PM
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Belly
My trust in those other nations you mention are even less. One does not discount the other. At least in the West there is some effort in governance and accountability and the fact that whistleblowers do emerge from time to time means there is space for those revelations. Most people are not corrupt it is just that sometimes those with power can be corrupted and hence their influence is felt more widely. In Saudi Arabia and Pakistan (as you mention them) there is no framework for freedom of speech. However, we can also do better. Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 2:09:50 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_iran_israel_report
Iranian state television ran a report Monday saying Israeli military aircraft were massing at a U.S. air base in Iraq for a strike on Iran.
Commentary:
All that is missing is an "Al Qaeda Revenge Attack" (
nudge nudge wink wink) and World War 3 cranks up into rock and roll full tilt boogie kill them all and let god sort them out mode.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/177824.html
911 link's
WTC Hard Drives Show $100 Million
In Criminal Credit Transfers Before Towers Fell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R3QgmWstJA
All 9/11 Airports Serviced
by One Israeli Owned Company
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ICTS.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fbishut.html
i knew there was a link
http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=5512
other stuff
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/will-bin-ladens-death-usher-in-the-end-of-islamophobia-and-war/
why?
http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=5501
how
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/02/fake-picture-used-as-osama-bin-laden-was-on-a-forum-in-2010pics/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake?CMP=twt_fd
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fakealqaeda.php
the more of this you hear
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14797
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETqUCmlPWLI&feature=channel_video_title
the more shall die
[two thirds if the bible is right]
is it time for truth
or time for more war lies?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
do you hate life that much?
this much
http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=832
live and let live
to quote the new testiment
''let the wheat grow with the tares'
let god sort it out
ignore the drums of war...!
what is israel fighting for?
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/beyond-bin-laden-stunt-and-dire.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.php
need i keep searching?
search your heart
its time