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Posted by Belly, Friday, 7 January 2011 5:08:36 AM
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csteele,
I do not hear your equal criticisms of the innocent the Taliban diliberately target and murder. In every operation or raid there may be uninvolved civillians unintentionaly injured or killed. Most terrorists have wives, families and friends. We would hope no innocent suffers but it is not the fact, but we do not deliberatly target unnarmed civillians as your friends the Taliban. Posted by Philo, Friday, 7 January 2011 9:05:35 AM
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To target a funeral where it is obvious that there will be large numbers of woman, children and non-combatants present in order to kill one man is to target civilians.
It was a funeral for God's sake! And you are condoning it! And you guys are starting to wheel out the Bushian diatribe of 'those who are not fully with us are against us and are to be considered friends of the enemy'. Is this because you are bereft of answers? And I am more than happy to condemn the Taliban for civilian deaths. One disturbing development was the over-ruling the Taliban's earlier code of conduct booklet "The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan's Rules for Mujahideen," which read in part; “"Every member of the Mujahideen must do their best to avoid civilian deaths, civilian injuries and damage to civilian property. Great care must be taken," and that "Suicide attacks should only be used on high and important targets. A brave son of Islam should not be used for lower and useless targets." The booklet was part of a directive from Mullah Omar, titular head of the Afghan Taliban but according to a NATO spokesperson he has, since June last year, escalated attacks against civilians ordering “his men to specifically target NATO-led forces, capture or kill any Afghan who is supporting and working for international troops, capture or kill any Afghan women who are helping or providing information for foreign troops.” But then it fits neatly in with 579's position posted earlier. I quote; “Aiding the enemy makes you an enemy, I would not be soft on these taliban or their friends. This mob need to be cleaned up for the good of the world.” Posted by csteele, Friday, 7 January 2011 2:01:01 PM
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For interest, what does the Taliban's 'code of conduct' say about stonings?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/world/asia/17stoning.html Posted by Cornflower, Friday, 7 January 2011 3:05:00 PM
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Taliban and its like killed tourists in Bali, cut the throat of journalists, kills untold numbers of missing people.
We are reminded of a funeral shot up, but do we talk about Christan's murdered because they celebrated Christmas. Or burnt to death in cars. It is simple true, we re look at our mistakes and deaths that never should have happened , our enemy's give praise for them. London, New York, Spain, France, Nordic nations, Holland, all have seen pure hate driven murders, lets stop the rubbish. Asking us to obey rules the other side ignores is,,, well you tell me. Kind hearted niceness and concern for killers is folly our deaths would be celebrated by them. Tell me, any one, how will this growing problem end if not in war? Posted by Belly, Friday, 7 January 2011 4:20:57 PM
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I'm sure many Muslims would be able to tick off instances of Western brutality one by one just like you did, Belly.
It's the age old conundrum of who is the most ruthless and immoral - us or them? (And depending on which side of the line you're on - the answer is always "them") Seems to me that humankind as a species, for all its philosophies and self-professed "morality" is a most savage adversary. "Justification" is the balm we use to sooth our conscience of its weary load. Posted by Poirot, Friday, 7 January 2011 5:36:33 PM
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America knew it faced half a million casualty's if it invaded Japan, had plans for a 1946 invasion.
Some in Japans government ,few, wanted to surrender.;
Bomb two went, Russia invaded, the Emperor God said surrender, made a tape his own people tried to stop it ever being heard.
Japanese history is not teaching its people about the war the female prisoners made to be comfort women, constantly raped .
The deaths of prisoners of war by foul starvation and torture, mass murders of civilians.
It bleats about those bombs, ensnares some who only hear about humans on fire and deaths but they need to know what was behind them, both and that war is not kind or nice never has been but it is not going away while men divide them selves in the name of Gods.
Wikileaks is doing a good job,but consider this, if the actions of these terrorists are to become as openly seen as Americas I fear for those who see only bad in the USA and its supporters.
Not their lives just reputations, opinions are often based on only part of the story.