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From ABC News today:

"United States missiles fired from remotely-controlled aircraft have killed 15 militants in Pakistan.
The US missiles hit a vehicle and a suspected militant compound in Pakistan's volatile region of North Waziristan.
The first strike hit near the town of Mandi Del. The drones fired again when militants rushed to the scene to retrieve the dead and injured."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/02/3104920.htm

Why are we still part of this?

When did we blithely condone the killing of those who have "rushed to the scene to retrieve the dead and injured"?

So now we use the screams of the wounded as bait for another attack? In my childhood it was only those "mongrel Japs" or "Jerries" that would do a thing like that, leave a man pleading for help between the lines just to entice the brave and foolhardy to chance rescuing him so he could be picked off.

Very few of us weren't totally sickened by the gunning down of the van driver and his children who had gone to assist the wounded Reuter's reporter in the Wikileaks video 'Collateral Murder'
www.collateralmurder.com (the site no longer seems to open).

The military's press release on the incident was that 11 insurgents and the two Reuters men had been killed during an attack on American troops. It stood for nearly 2 years despite numerous FOI attempts from Reuter until Wikileaks released the footage.

Don't we need them now!

So many questions, so few answers and it would seem so little interest in finding out more from our traditional news providers.
Posted by csteele, Sunday, 2 January 2011 6:23:54 PM
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Are the dead victims or perpetrators.
Those rushing to retrieve the dead are they Innocent or part of the now dead.
Can we,women included claim to understand just what is happening in those country's.
Show me please do, concern for the females who live a second class life there.
If we return home will they come too, the terrorists?
Will it get better or worse if we come home.
If we do will boats in numbers we can not yet believe come here.
So easy to say stop our troops killing/being killed come home, what then?
Are our sins in these country's even near the equal of the Taliban, of the 9/11 murderers?
We do not live In a world that fixes its self, or one that has a wonderful God waiting to fix it for us.
Have no doubt we must fix the wrongs.
And defend our right to be us,it is simplistic to blame only the west for the murderous situation.
And thoughts we should sit back and let evil take its course are blind to reality we one day will fight such a dirty battle, maybe here at home.
Yes it would be good to leave, but while we are there I have no problems with deaths of such folk.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 3 January 2011 6:10:29 AM
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belly asked..<<dead victims..or perpetrators>

Over 10,000..died in Afghan violence..in 2010
http://uruknet.com/?p=m73505&hd=&size=1&l=e

about a fifth/civilians
about what is..in a union

how would you like..one unionist..to innocently die
for every four..accused*..of being bad-guys'..

and re 911..its time you got up to speed..on what really happend
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wrh_9-11_index.php

thumbnail scetch..the night before..cheeney anounced 2 trillion dollars missing from pentagone accounting...the next day[9/11]..the stockmarket was going to go into meltdown

planned exersizes were planned...at the targeted buildingd
overseen by cheney from the bunkers...mossad involvment was complete

the building's had not just one..but two insurances..on terrorist attack specificlly...[with an israel insurance..as primary insuror...,eaning if they paidout..OTHERS HAD TO PAY-out too

its a clever scam
but hardly new
http://www.activistpost.com/2010/12/13-lies-abbreviated-history-of-us.html#more

but whats it all REALLY about
getting the drugs to the cia..via rendition-flights
getting the gold from building 7
destroying the enron case evidence..[in building 7]
getting at the 2 trillion of minerals in aphganastan
getting bailouts to mates

getting rid of buildings..the 100 year-lease holder had to remove asbestos from..[estimated at over two bilklion..but no-one wanted to do..[couldnt get liability insurance cause of asbestosis..fears for the workers suing]

and of course..building a pipeline

The reason the year 2014..is touted as the year for the beginning of US/NATO withdrawal..is that this is the year..that the TAP (Turkmenistan/Afghanistan/Pakistan)*Pipeline,..bringing natural gas from Turkmenistan into Pakistan,..is supposed to be completed.

but heck mate..swallow the coolaid
the ONLY steel-frame buildings..ever..to fall down
building 7 wasnt even hit...lol

its never been investigated

metal was smelted..as it was salvaged..to get rid of the proof it was demolised...by those in govt...mossad set up the patsies...and rigged demolition...busches brother was security provider for the building

911...*it's a scam
Posted by one under god, Monday, 3 January 2011 11:28:47 AM
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Yes it's completely disgusting isn't it? And there is so little debate or discussion about Australia's part in this! An out-of-control homicidal rogue state with Australia crawling up its arse at every stage.

Far as it may seem from the problem, the biggest single unseen contributing factor is the US Federal Reserve. Throughout history, governments have been addicted to inflation, especially to fund war, because it means they are able to conceal the true costs of the war whereas taxation would be much more visible, resented, and opposed. The Fed is the US gumments' inflating machine, silently vacuuming up money from everyone in America, and since America is the reserve currency of the world, from everyone in the world, to pay for this utterly corrupt wasteful destruction.

However there is some good news. The one Congressman to have steadily opposed the Fed for the last 30 years is Ron Paul. He wants it abolished, to bring all US troops home, to retire the armies now blowing up goatherds and bridal parties in the third world, (and garrisoned in Germany and Japan 65 years after the war ended!) and in short, to beat their swords into ploughshares. Up til now no-one has listened, but the GFC, and the resurgence of the Austrian school of economics that successfully predicted it, has provoked interest in the Fed as never before. And Ron Paul has been appointed chairman of the Congress's Financial Services sub-committee. So we will watch with interest his examinations of the government's zillion-dollar handouts of stolen money to banksters, big corporations and foreign governments, (which idiots and ignoramuses call "unrestrained capitalism") and hope for Ron Paul's early victory in the war for honest money.
Posted by Peter Hume, Monday, 3 January 2011 11:45:51 AM
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OUG Peter Hume, first the deaths are dreadful murder always is.
How ever what can humanity do, are you saying if we be good the other side will too.
Peter I have never doubted your intelligence, why swear like that?
Is it in your view ok? if I use that filth too?
I am no prude, in fact can out swear you without taking breath, what would that prove here?
OUG how many innocents die in any war, was Afghanistan better under the Taliban, do you support sports grounds being used to commit murder as a spectator sport?
9/11 those towers fell, innocents died do not be fooled by the stupidity of those who blame others.
Right now,right or wrong, we are at war, efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, have stopped massive murders in our country's by terrorists fed lies and hate in the name of a God.
Do you think they will see us putting our
weapons away as weakness.
Modern man is fighting against some who want to take us back to the dark ages.
Wikileaks is showing Arab nations asking America and its suporters to get even more involved in war ,,against Iran for one.
Well meaning, but one sided views do more harm than good , should Australia have stayed out of WW2? was our Mr Hume about then, did he consider us living in England's , well leave the filth along with the blindness to others.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 3 January 2011 4:22:32 PM
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If we focussed on stamping out stupidity as we are focussing on making as much money as possible for as little effort as possible then we'd probably read about such killings in history books.
I wonder what it is about stupidity being so embedded in society/religion/business.
It's a bit like I love Australia but if someone offered enough money it's for sale. Same goes for religion. There's only one God so why do we have so many religions ? If someone can explain this logic please do it here. You never know, it might prevent another stupid act.
Posted by individual, Monday, 3 January 2011 4:47:56 PM
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