People against live exports. My concern is not that Muslims will have control because of the money made from the Halal meat.

My concern is that they will have control because of the precedent set by the issue with the Halal meat as it makes it so that the beliefs and Laws of Muslims are more respected and more powerful than anybody else. That puts Muslims in a huge position of power and it shouldn’t be allowed. Islamic laws are designed for Islamic countries and they never blend well with the West, usually resulting in violence. This issue with Muslims forcing their beliefs and ways onto others, with the excuse that they are not permitted to change, is heading to the same direction as Cronulla, the Australian public will eventually retaliate.

I have many a time voiced my concerns over Animal Welfare, just because I don’t go out on to the streets does not mean that I do not care. I am but one human being and a fight for the protection of children already consumes me. The protection of children comes first. Maybe one day you will realize that if we cant get them to protect the children then what hope do the animals have?

Muslim people may not want to offend but because of their obvious differences and ways and their refusal, whether because of law or religion, to change to adapt and blend a bit more with the Australian scenery and ways they come across as not caring if they do offend.

I don’t believe that an Islamic Council that has control or is wanting to introduce Halal Meat is going to be interested in acknowledging or investigating a complaint from an individual against what they are doing

Jolanda,
you say
" I tried to make a complaint of discrimination and the Anti-Discrimination board wouldn't even look at it because I couldn't prove first that it was because of race and this is despite the fact that the evidence I had clearly showed bias and discrimination that included misconduct"

You know it was because of race do you. how would you know that. maybe its because you have a vexaious reputation.

every heard of the boy who cried wolf.

Do you get that not all meat is Halal. this means we have a choice.

Why dont you answer the question.

I do not have a vexatious reputation Tootsie. I have been unfairly branded vexatious by those in the system but I will be fighting that in court. Making formal complaints and following the policy and procedure for making complaints should not be able to then be presented as vexatious actions.

We have freedom of speech that I speak out about injustices should be my right, that you critize me for exercising my right and wish to discredit me says more about you than about me..

I can't say for sure whether what happend to my children was just because of their race or also because I made some public complaints about their treatment as nobody left a confession but the thing is that they wouldnt' investigate it unless it was because of race and unless I could prove it first. Had I been Muslim then for sure they would have believed that it was racism and they would have been required to investigate it. Without an investigation the chidren remain unprotected. It really shouldn't matter what the reason was for the discrimination or who we are, discrimination and victimisation borne out of malice, prejudice and spite should be against the law for everyone. To do otherwise is discriminatory.

I have answered your question Tootsie, it matters not to me whether all the meat is Halal yet. At this point the fact that the changes have been made without consulting Australians just shows which direction it is headed. If we wait until ALL MEAT is Halal do you really think we will be able to reverse the trend.

Jolanda,

that is ridiculous. that you think that they should have consulted Australians. how do you propose they do that. who should ask. these people selling halal is their own business. just like you, you dont like to be told how to run your business why should they. does that mean that they should ask when a Chinese restaurant or vegetarian restaurant is opened. absolutely ridiculous. does that mean we should limit how many businesses Asian people open. or European. where does it stop.. Australia is a MULTICULTURAL country. why are you picking on Muslims.

Where did I discredit you. I got the information about Vexatious from more than one place. you have a reputation. all around the internet. You compain about just about everything.just google your name.

Tootsie that I bring up issues of which I believe are a concern is my right........this is Australia. That you call me vexatious just shows you to be of the type that doesn't want people to voice their concerns. It was you that tried to discredit me in your posts on this thread, don't try to blame anybody else. Fact is that it is not going to work as I don’t care what you think of me, I have concerns, I have legitimate complaints and I will speak out for as long as it takes.

If the meat is being slaughtered as Halal meat at the abattoirs then the shops also loose their choice to buy non halal meat.

I think you are the one that is picking on those that have an issue with the oppressive Muslim regime.

Jolanda, I did not discredit you. where did I discredit you.

Butchers choose where they get their meat from. they have a choice as does you and everyone else. where do I blame everybody else.
You choose to speak out. therefore you are given a vexatious reputation.

I suggest you choose your battles carefully if you dont like this reputation.

I have no issues with people that have legitimate issues with anybody. yours is not legitimate. muslims have a right to eat Halal just as vegetarians have a right to not eat meat.

This is a MULTICULTURAL COUNTRY.. I embrace differences.

you speak out as much as you like Jolanda I dont care. just dont say people dont a choice because they do. You will find that the majority of butchers that sell Halal are in the areas that the Majority of Muslims live.

WHO SHOULD HAVE CONSULTED WHO?