Quite frankly, if a company wants to have someone mumble a few words in prayer to appease a section of the market, I have no issues with it.

Nothing particularly different is done to halal meat, save for a prayer. It isn't treated in a special way, it merely falls into the category then receives the prayer stamp of approval.

There are much more worthy things to get hot and bothered about, and I can't help but feel this cause really is a waste of time. To that end, I bid this thread adieu.

Different priorities and interests make this forum worthwhile. I am interested in this topic and so want to find out more. There are a lot of topics about which I have little knowledge and even less interest. These I don't even bother commenting on. I do, however like to read other people's comments. Just think how boring it would be if we were all hot and bothered about the same things. I appreciate the variety of issues aired on this forum as well as the different discussion threads about what concerns us as individuals.

Lizzie4. It is good to hear that others are concerned about this issue with the Muslims forcing their laws and beliefs on Australians without our consent or choice.

I see it is a serious issue as once it is in place, it cannot be reversed. Unfortunately due to other issues I do not at this point in time have the time or motivation to take on a petition, but I did want to air my concerns so that people stop to think.

When you have a culture that is set in its ways and will not change or budge and they expect others to accomodate them and their ways are oppressive in nature, for people not to be concerned to me just shows ignorance and/or stupidity.

It seems that there are those that don't learn.

"When you have a culture that is set in its ways and will not change or budge and they expect others to accomodate them and their ways are oppressive in nature, for people not to be concerned to me just shows ignorance and/or stupidity."

Somewhere along the way, Jolanda, I seem to recall you saying that you are Catholic. I don't have a problem with what faith [if any] individuals choose to follow, but the Catholic heirarchy could fairly be said to be "a culture that is set in its ways and will not change or budge and they expect others to accomodate them and their ways are oppressive in nature."

Compared to the typical opposition to voluntary euthanasia [supported by 70/80% of the Australian public], abortion, contraception, gay equality, realistic sex education, etc, which we get from traditional Catholicism and from other forms of extreme Christianity, I find the concern over Halal food almost farcical. And despite your attempts at browbeating OLO posters into submission, I'd say that many others see it that way too.

As for a believer asking for God's or Allah's blessing on his/her day's work, well what's wrong with that, and how can it possibly have an adverse effect on a downline buyer or user of the product of such a person's day's work?

Jolanda

I probably understand what your saying more that most. However Tootie at Home and Rex have good points.
The bottom line SHLOULD be what is ivolved in the ritual slaughter of the animals? Everybody should put that! first. If by opening another one hundred Halal Abbotirs Australia wide for example would give us back our jobs and stop animals going alive to third world countries- I would be encouraging that. As a matter of fact I am.
Tootsie is right that a butcher does not simply change from Australian Slaughterd meat to Halal. I suggest it ispossible your butcher sold his shop?
No you dont have halal and Aussie meat side by side.
What your trying to say Jolanda is you fear Australia will be taken over eventually.
Perhaps one day.
Either way its something that we should all think about from a Animal Welfare point of view.
Whats best for the animals is what SHOULD count.
Otherwise meats meat.
At least Maylasian Government reps are prepaired to look at using a gas on larger animals to render them unconcious [ which has never been fone before]
If ever they do that I will be promting Halal meat as the most humane method and bugger people egos.
We have a wonderful new President of AFIC. I encourage ypou to write to him with any concerns. he loves Australia as much as we do and he has a BIG interests in Animal Welfare pluss addressing any concerns from the public.
Write to him and you may be surprised.
Rex has made enquiries into Halal Slaughter for the RIGHT reasons and I wish there were more like him!

People against Live Exports. Are you trying to tell me that you would support the Muslims if it meant that the animals are treated kinder even though they could very well get enough power and control because of this to put humans at risk of being treated in a manner that is oppressive and controlling and more often than not violent and extreme?.