Tootsie letting me know is not giving me a choice.

Dont you get it?

People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming. It is a fair comment.

Jolanda, letting you know, is giving you the choice not to buy.

If there was no sign,no other butcher to buy from, that would mean no choice, forced for buy.

therefore you are not forced.. go elsewhere. easy

Do you get that all meat is not halal?

I think you may be a "cronic complainer"

do you get that not all meat is Halal? you seem to be avoiding answering that question?

Jolanda

Might help if we talk about Halal accreditations.


AFIC charged with the accreditations of Halal Certification for Halal Slaughter.

Thirty Two Islamic Councils In Australia . Many don't even acknowledge AFIC as leaders.

You might view us! as the enermy because we work with AFIC. We are encouraging more Halal Abattoirs in Australiaworking directly with Aussie farmers.. See
http://www.halakindmeats.com/submissions.html

Were are not aiming at local market but to export Halal To muslim customers.
It simple makes sense to keep our jobs here and put animal welfare first.
RSPCA position regarding abattoirs are that animals should be slaughtered as close to origin.
There are around thirteen Halal certifiers in Australia. That does not mean that we only deal with thirteen Halal certifiers.
AQIS deal direct with many others from many overseas destinations. Thats is something I question. It takes the direct contact away from the Australian farmers who are selling their stock. It trips them up with trade talk. It puts distance between themselves and the purchasers and leaves them totally open to the tricky live export shipping agents.
The struggle for Halal accreditation is enormous.
The way I see it if we can have a single wheat desk for eg we can have the same for Halal. It is certainly in the interests of our national sercurity to know who is who. Make no mistake Halal meat is a billion dollar business and growing.
Australian Muslims are by large in this country good Aussie cizs.
Of course! we need to know who is behind the donut the Halal Chicken outlets the Halal Ice cream.
We need a national accreditation For Halal Slaughter in Australia.
Some work has been done on this. BUT
Your going on gut instinct. Nothing wrong with that either.!

I will post a few more trival bits and pieces about Halal meat. Dont let the bullys ,bully you out of having a voice.

Learn a bit more about it and then you might even be able to help with a few ideas.
I can assure you many Muslim Leaders would sincerly welcome that.

People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming. I do not see Muslims or those that support Muslims as my enemy. I have a Muslim niece and nephew and I have always supported them and been welcoming.

I fully understand the difficult situation devout Muslims are in.

I also understand that our Government told the Muslim people that they could come to this country and that it was a multicultural country and that they could dress as they pleased, act as they pleased and practice the religion that they pleased. Our Government cannot suddenly now change their mind so there has to be some sort of compromise as what pleases Muslims can often displease others. Problem is that I do not see at any point there being compromises.

It appears that our laws are such that the rights and beliefs of Muslims are more respected than the rights or beliefs of anybody else. It also seems to me that the fact that they are Muslim automatically provides them protection. Protection that the average Australian is not entitled to. Every other person would struggle to prove that acts of discrimination or victimisation against them were based on racism (the anti-discrimination board will not look at or investigate a complaint unless you can prove first that it was based on racism) but for Muslims everything is seen as a race issue just because they are Muslim. This is not only wrong, it is unfair! If this is a truly multicultural country then we should all have the same level of protection and rights.

We need to learn to live together and if the Muslim people want others to have a better attitude towards them then they have to show that they are considerate and understanding of others. No Muslim would agree with Catholics going to their country and changing things and applying other Laws and religious beliefs on them without the consent of the Muslim people yet Muslims remain silent when it happens here.

That to me is a concern.

Jolanda I dont agree with you.

you say " everything is seen as a race issue just because they are Muslim. "
Can you give an example of this.