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i find it a bit ummm.. entertaining/interesting, that most of the posters here questions the Christian GOD and that other religions belief hardly come into the discussion except when it comes to bad- mouthing them. As for UOG, I have already tried, the rest is up to you and your own brain.

I can't remember where I read somewhere in this forum. But a certain being expressed about how he/she did not agree on Islams migrating here. That, i honestly had a laugh about. I've hoping that maybe I am wrong. Maybe he/she was originally from this land. Not the convicts from England and Europe that were banished here after this continent got discovered by westerners.

And somehow.. most of you think, you have some kinda right to decide who can live on this land and who can't, thanks to the laws of this countries, and the media of course. Who owned this land? did it belong to you? will it ever belong to you, or are you just lying to yourself that it belongs to you and you have the rights to decide who else uses it.
Posted by jinny, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 3:28:38 AM
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Thank you DEEP.

I had a brief look through the 2 link u shared. The first one(only watched halfway) is about spirits. In my opinion, spirits do exist. I believe in reincarnation. I have seen when close family/friends pass. Some thing else comes into my life in another form. Life ends in one way, but it never really does.. physically yes.. but not mentally and emotionally.

It's hard to trust videos. They play tricks on our mind.

The second one... I agree and disagree. We have been brought up to base our knowledge on maths.. That is what has been taught to us. So for what we now now, it should be 2+2=4.. simple maths. Yes, we can always choose to twist every around, simply because our mind likes playing tricks. btw, you wont see a ghost, because you know better and you don't believe in them. Besides, so what if you see a ghost?

Our life is an illusion. We can live it as it is, in reality, or we can choose to not accept it, and live in our own heads(which most people do). Sad to see, but not much we can do about it as of now.

tbc'ed
Posted by jinny, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 3:50:09 AM
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JINNY.

"Besides, so what if you see a ghost?"

Well since no ghost has never been recorded harming the living, I guess the experience will open my eyes to the point of what all religions are based upon.
Now if ghosts exist, I would like to ask OUG or Runner why they are not in the two biblical destinations described by the bible.

I am not surprised that a great many people go to extraordinary lengths to convince all.

Anyway, I do have one story I cant explain. My partner and I called into an old 17 to 18 century country grave site, and its your typical run down type for the dead spot, and after walking around for an hour or so, time was pressing and back to the car we went.

So far, no big deal..... until I tried to re-start the car, then the starter motor failed. Right! again.....No big deal, this type of thing happens all the time....so I went across the road to a farmers house and asked him if he could tow my car up to his property while I went to the wreckers for a replacement.

Well this guy started to have a little chuckle to him self and I asked what was so funny, and he replied....." your number 465! I said' what do you mean?

And he said clearly, YOU ARE THE 465 person I have towed out of that graveyard since my family and I move here ten years ago.

Now that Jinny, in my books, that is beyond the realms of coincidence, and he went on to say that most of the cars started up once the car was removed.

And yes, after I pull the starter out and tested it, there was nothing wrong with it.

So not all is explainable.

BLUE
Posted by Deep-Blue, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 7:05:27 AM
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into..the faithfull...loyal servant..of good

We are..supposed to be..filled with..the_Holy_Spirit
as much as possible,..and to seek the good-
living/loving..gracefull/mercyfull..face of..God.

We are..supposed to be..devoted
to prayer..by works..[good_fruits]

However much..we may seek to avoid..this logic,
when..we are not doing this,..we are living..contrary..to the will of God.

And..Satanic-demons..knows it....as our thought-energies..cannot decieve..those knowing..their own..
by their mindless-emissions..of hate/fear..averice/greed..love of vile..etc

Demons..return to..empty vessels*.
where love is..no vile can enter..

The demon says,.."I will return to my house..[body/mind..person/slave]..
from which I came...And when he comes,..he finds it empty,..swept..and put in order...

[such is forgivness..without repenting acts..]
as jesus revealed..it is thy faith..that has healed..you

Then he goes return..and takes..with him..seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,..and they enter..and dwell there;
and the last state..of that man..is worse than..the first."
(Matthew..12:44,45).

if only we could..realise..
forgivness..NEEDS a forgiving heart..And mind..and works

Demons..can only..get back in..
when we are not doing..what we are..supposed to be doing.

Paul said,.."Nor give place to..the d-evil."..(Ephesians.4:27).

We give place to..the {d}evil..when we fail to give to God
the GOOD's..that truly belongs..to Him,..in terms of our praise,..by works
by..our love..and our adoration...to bring gods..good back..to all his creation

If you have done this,..be sure that God..[good]..is well able to deliver you,
but it will be..when in your heart..you truly return to the Lord..that he gives us
all..[good/love/grace/mercy..life..logic/light/reasoning]..
as being..the number one..passion of your life...

Sudden shocks,..traumas..and crises

These..can open the door..for demons to get in..for example,..a sudden shock might open the door..for a demon feeding off..fear..to enter a young child....if he visualises..the negative imagry..the media..is so good at feeding into..the youth/of today..

That demon..may have a stronghold..for years afterwards,..producing irrational..fears in a person..at odd moments....and by odd passions..or perverse nature..[self injury..or love of injury to others.]

Once we are aware of this,..we will be more prudent..about the kinds of things..we let our young children watch,..[without explaining them..as to what they are..and the dangers..they can realise]..

and we will also...need to learn them..the importance of praising God..
by love of good unto all..[and fearing no evil...being the love]..
instead of..going to pieces..when the storms of life strike.

Rituals of..religions..and societie
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 8:41:02 AM
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These can open the door..for demons..to get*,into people..
the bible says..do not take oath..[matt..5;33-48..7;1..23;16-28..james/5;12..8-20..4;10-12/2;4-10..3;1-18]..for good reason..

demons..will later work..to blind them..
to the true gospel{good}....of works/..of love of other.

Therefore,..in seeking light..from the Holy Spirit..concerning a particular need for deliverance,..be it in your own life..or someone else's,..be aware of*this..possibility.

Many forms.of modern entertainment..open people..to demonic invasion...and other..negative judgmental fears..that sepperate us from good

Much..in the film,..television and music industries
often..is inspired by satanists..[just note their imagry]..and opens people up..to satanic or worldly philosophy..and the in-fluence of demons.

Pornography,..occultic role-playing games..or devices to supposedly
communicate with the dead..or tell fortunes..all
can open people up..to demon...in-spiration's.

These days..the majority of films and television
shows rated PG or above have elements..which glorify evil,murder..mayhem
promote lust,..or inspire fear...Many video games,..besides being a huge waste of time, have violent themes..which at worst can inspire violent attitudes..and behavior in people

Chief Activities..of Demons

1...They tempt people to sin,[or simply..be aware*of sin..;its a fine line]..by putting various kinds of..[im-a-gin-ing's]..imagiry..imagi/nations.into..the minds
of men and women..and speaking words of deceit..(Genesis 3:1-6)...

Satan..even tempted Jesus,..and Jesus revealed to us..the way to
overcome temptation..by using the World of Good..(see Matthew..4:1-10).

2...They deceive..(2 Corinthians 11:14)...They especially lie..about God..{good},blaming..all the evil on God...Many religious leaders..are deceived by Satanists/thought..guilt.

As long as..we remain deceived..on some important point,..
demons have*something..they can work with...that
They can return to..like rats..return to rubbish.

3...They hurt..and torment..through sickness..(Acts 10:38),
death,..breakdown of human relationships..leading to strife,war..and violence.

4...They threaten..overtly[loud-noises..flashing lights..(trusting to be..inducing fear)(2 Timothy 1.7)...They suggest all kinds of negative scenarios..in order to create anxiety and fear.

Many fears of people today..are unreasonable
and are the direct result of demonic suggestion...
via media..or rumours..[..lies..pr-spin..ridicule]

5...They dominate,..or enslave.(2.Timothy 2:26).
Satanists..seeks to recruit slaves..through the power/of..and beliefs..in materialism..and faux spiritualism..witchcraft..supra-natural..spectorals..and other forms..of creed based idiology..and paternalistic-peer controled..belief/disbelief systems..incuding..religion.

or gives power..or money..or sexual pleasures..for entertaintmeant..
in exchange for various forms of worship..loyaty..and obedience.

But Satanists..always double-crosses their slaves/servants,
so they too become victims of..this hate/fear...or even rejection

Jesus said,..“What will it profit a man..if he gains
the whole world,..and..
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 8:47:31 AM
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if he gains
the whole world,..and loses his soul?”.(Mark 8:36)

6...They accuse Good-people..so that they have reduced effectiveness
in their prayers[works]..and their relationship with Good.

7...They harrass..through repeated/colluded/deliberated..attacks
on mind,..emotions,..body-type..or sex..as well as the state of their,
finances..or through inspiring persecutors..to make life hard for/those doing the right thing.[cor..4;1-21..5;1-13..6;11]

8...They glorify themselves..through witchcraft,ritual/creed..in lue of egsample/works false..religion..and other tools..like the occult..and much of today’s..popular rock-and-roll,..rap..doof/duff..trance..and metal music...

Fear,..hate..and pride are the major motivations
in Satanist's...dark realms.laughingly called a kingdumb.

When you see these..characteristics..in a person,..
[your not seeing the good..sustaining..the living..of
this being..but..being..by gods[good]..will*..alone..[all-one]

you are looking at someone who has yielded..to the conspirations
leading us all..to evil inspired..of spirits,..whether they[or we]..know it or not.

Jesus said that..the thief comes to steal,..kill..and destroy.
If you make friends with spirits..committed to your destruction,..you are a fool.
(John..10:10).

God loves us,{loves ALL of US]..and doesn't want us
to have fellowship with demons..who decieve only themselves
(see..1 Corinthians..10:20).

For that reason,..we must honour/respect..that good..reflected..off God
and not give..that place..in our hearts to the various idols..in our material-culture.

We see these things,..especially divination/criminalisation..victimisation/oppression/per_version..,..
in the various..and many blurbs/blogs/magazines/news?pepp-ers.. and personal
commentary-columns..of the mass media...and specificly the pay-for vieuw/public free-to-air

Occultism is promoted..through the film...and other media enter-taintymeant-industries
though talk-back..and even/through the New Age..environment..and self realisation-movement's.

Postmodernism..relativistic philosophies,
openness to everything..except God's good/living love

and rewriting..the rules of thinking..though/creation and death/after life
are coming in..through the intellectual..and cultural movement's..of personalised
opinion pieces..of post-modernism...or science masked as athiestic alternatives

It basically says..concerning all things,
"Its all about you."..its an accident...you will live..then die
That's a lie.

Its all about God,..[the living loving_good]
..inherant..[seen]..see-able..in all*..living..actually.

Unbelief,..fear..and depression..are all powerfully
at work in..all aspects..of western/eastern..
[heck..all..levels of]..society..today.

The only antidote..to these is..GOOD...of God Himself.
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 8:48:19 AM
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