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i agree..with davids concept
we each have good..and..evil

jesus said as much when he wrote in the dust
[the law..thou shalt not murder]
when he spake the words..
let thee without sin..cast the first stone...[none are without sin]

we can only judge ourselves

anyhow lets finish..this off
in lue of questions..or proof

continue quote from the link

..although..I should not care..to descend to/clothe myself..in this astral form,..yet a spirit..more ignorant than myself..could easily do so..in order to make..himself felt..and seen upon the earth..

in a more palpable form..than possible..to any spirit
who has left..the/earth plane;

but..in doing so..he would run a danger..
of creating a link between himself
and the astral-envelope..not easily broken,..
and which..might thus tie him
to the astral plane..for a considerable time.

You/will,..therefore,..see how the idea..has arisen that men on earth,..in seeking to see..their departed friends,..draw/..the spirits back*into..earthly conditions..and thus..do*them harm.

Many an ignorant spirit..who is good..and pure/himself,..has committed the mistake of relating himself..in one*of these*..fresh astral-shells..

when he would have turned away from those..
which he knew..to have been left..by another spirit,

and has found..to his cost/..that he has thereby
made of himself..a prisoner in it..upon the earth plane,

till a higher intelligence comes to his aid..
and releases him.

continues at

http://new-birth.net/booklet/Wanderer_a4.pdf

but..gone west..says..the hell issues..better
Posted by one under god, Monday, 8 November 2010 12:56:24 PM
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One under God:
Christian doctrine is very clear when dealing with the spirit world. For example the doctrine of the “Trilogy”, put simply, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. We are exalted in the Bible to witness God in nature, in the animals that dwell on earth and in the sky. That is God the Father.
Christian teaching goes on to say God the Son is witnessed in the historic event of approximately two thousand years ago at the birth of Christ and his short life on earth. That event is portrayed as a visit to earth by God himself in the form of Christ his only Son. This is the point of separation in belief of Islam and Judaism, (and any other category of non-believer). The final complexity of Christianity is the concept of “God the Holy Spirit”. The Holy Spirit roams the earth and prompts all inclination towards good deeds in Humans.
Unfortunately for Human kind on earth, during the period of creation a great spiritual event occurred in Heaven, a rebellion of Angles against the supremacy and omnipotence of God himself. Naturally God won that round, but in so doing the bad Angle was cast out from Heaven and confined in exile on earth where he now deals the upper hand for the time being, until God likewise deals with him in the appointed time.
So it is very clear from the Christian doctrine and teachings that Evil roams earth in a spiritual form or the spiritual influence of the Devil (the fallen Angel) and is opposed by the influence for righteousness (good) in the form of the Holy Spirit. So for true Christians believer, the spirit of Evil is very much alive and well for the moment.
Is there any dispute on the above analogy of Christianity and its adherence to belief in the spiritual influences of good over evil?
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 8 November 2010 12:57:46 PM
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diver..jesus isnt..god..[see me see my father]..meaning god is love
[that ye see me do the father does for all of us]

jesus was to be called...emmanuel..
[god with-{in}.us..{all}]..sustaining..even jesus..his life

ditto satan..judas...the leasdt who yet is greater than the most
[god is the least...sustaining even the most vile..their live[from within]..thaty we do to the least..we thus do to him

no trinity..we can know good[god]..one to one
not one to three...thats just creed spin

jesus is the..stone{rejected]..upon which his church is built
not peter..not paul..[saul]..

jesus/son..god/father

<<bad Angle/cast out from Heaven>>.is a thing that didnt happen
[god didnt cast out no-one]..how could he..he is in him..sustaining his life too

<<God likewise deals..with him in the appointed time.>>
thats just creed..[deciete]..how can god deal with himself
as he must to judge anyone...he is sustaining all of us our lives

<<Evil roams earth..in a spiritual form
or the spiritual influence of the Devil..(the fallen Angel)>>

there is the sillyness

sdatan didnt do the evil
we did...[ok there is a joinder..[conjunction..of evil with evil]
with..us needing to think evil...FIRST

but thats simply vile..claiming its own

there is no opposite to god..[good]
just as real..has no opposite..[lie]..because good is the only truth
evil is a lie..thuis not good thus not in the end true

its convoluted...but only good..[god]..is real

<<Is there..any dispute on/its adherence..to belief in the spiritual influences..of good over evil?>>..yes

its inverted...good..has no influence over evil
just as evil..can have no influence over true good

never the twain should meet
especially in the after life

you cant be mostly good
one speck of vile and its not good
one dash of leaven..leavens the whole batch

we chose to try to be good..try to do as we seen jesus do

he didnt judge..leper..nor money changer..
only drove them from the church...where righfully only good..of god..SHOULD be done

but sadly isnt
Posted by one under god, Monday, 8 November 2010 1:41:59 PM
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Is there a netherworld? of evil spirits.... YES.. absolutely.

I can only conclude that an otherwise rational (supposedly) non muslim man in Tower Hamlets Council would suggest as found in this article as a result of some kind of demonic influence.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout&cid=1219960891327
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Monday, 8 November 2010 1:46:13 PM
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diver dan wrote: "This is the point of separation in belief of Islam and Judaism, (and any other category of non-believer)."

The above is outright bigotry. People who believe something other than what you believe are not non-believers. There is such a thing as a non-believer. However, Muslims and Jews are believers. They just don't believe the mumbojumbo you believe.
Posted by david f, Monday, 8 November 2010 2:32:03 PM
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Dear ALGOREisRICH,

When I was in the army I would volunteer to take guard duty, kitchen police or other tasks on Christmas and Easter to enable a Christian soldier to be free on those dates. It wasn't demonic influence. It was showing friendship to those who didn't believe as I did. The non muslim man in Tower Hamlets Council was doing the same thing. You seem to be a mean man.
Posted by david f, Monday, 8 November 2010 4:08:29 PM
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