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Spirits of the

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And, the human species have existed for how long. When did religion come into the picture? How do you think the homo-sapiens lived before religion? All these religious books have their good and bad. I studied most of them growing up, went to Catholic church, Presbyterian, studied Hinduism, Buddhism, and found out that the Quran had a lot of similarities to the bible. Certain stories were exactly the same, wt different names. Same lesson.

Belly, why don't you do more scientifically proven research on god and the brain, and then come back and preach about your believes. Sorry, I'm not trying to insult you, just think that there is a lot out there that you haven't found out yet.

I didn't say I didn't believe in spirits. I said they existed in peoples mind. We create the world we want to live in, we choose what we want to believe in, and we need to learn how to respect others for what they choose to believe in for whatever reasons they have.

Evil is created. By sickness(usually mental), ignorance, and the evolution of this society we live in. Can you honestly tell me a baby was born Evil? No, we were all born pure spirited. It is because of the influence we have in our lives, that make us do wrong. How ever evil a person is, there is good, they are just misunderstood and damaged
Posted by jinny, Monday, 8 November 2010 4:52:45 PM
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btw.... who is Deep-Blue(aka DEEP)? I see you joined today and like your comments very much. I hope you stay and share.
Posted by jinny, Monday, 8 November 2010 4:54:49 PM
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yes..what david said...

When people don’t deal properly..with the hurts..they receive from others/in life,..by forgiving them fully,..their..spirit-body are able to be opened up..to acces by vile...called for convenience..;..demons.

Spirits..feeding off energies..our bodies emit..when we obsess
about small things like..resentment,..rejection,..anger,.hatred..and bitterness..

when/we presume..when we feel others..have wronged us,..
thus are very common..amongst people who have been dealt hard..and hurtful blows..by others...[or that they generalise as..'life']

Trustfull/faithfull/believers..who have been hurt..by pastors/cantors/rabbies..or spiritual..or..materaial..leaders..[ie followers of creeds].are especially vulnerable.

If this applies to you,..for your own sake,..forgive them,..
and avoid speaking..or even thinking..evil of them..and
especially planning revenge..or injury..upon them.

Otherwise..you will go on suffering needlessly...BY..Not dealing..with the hurt correctly could mean..you do more damage..[your angry/hurt..thoughts..turn into obsession..this emits energy..attracting demon's..who feed off..this form of..destructive energy

Demons..cannot..just enter people..any time they want to.

They need..a legal opening..invitation..to do so.

your thinking..bad thoughts..is their invitation
[they claim..by your thoughts..your..their*..own..[one of them]..

Knowledge..of the things..that open the door..to demons
will also give us..the knowledge..of how to keep..the door shut on them.

Sins..of Commission

"Do you not know..that..to whom..you present yourselves..as slaves
to obey,..you are..that one's slaves..whom you obey, whether of sin..
leading to death..or of blind..obedience..leading to self-righteousness?"
(Romans..6:16).

Jesus..answered them,.."Most assuredly,..I say to you,
whoever commits sin..is a slave of sin."..(John..8:34).

When people yield..to particular sins..often enough..
even at the level of mental acceptance..demons..can*
Posted by one under god, Monday, 8 November 2010 5:05:13 PM
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..enter them.

Actually,..even one..deliberate sin..can..open the door..for a demon to enter.

It does not..always happen,..but it can,..especially
where repentance..does not happen..quickly.

When a person..is doing..a sin..that they hate..and resent,..
it is no longer freedom..it is slavery...
Yielding to sin..always costs more..than it possably can give.

You may have done it freely..the first time,
but..you can't stop doing it..freely...once you have sold your soul

Demons drive..and compel people..towards..the same evil/..things...
this is why the teachings ...of the many holy texts are worth-while..

One of the areas..where many people are most conscious of this..
is in the area of sexual lust...[especially demeaning..or animalistic..perversions.
loose morals..or love of the perverse..destructive..or danger/thril..for danger sake.

People..may also feel compelled to lie,..cheat,..steal..
or think blasphemous thoughts...of others or themself...

inner..negative voices..are but a sign..
to avoid this..destructive action...immediatly.

It is by the work of the believer..to develop trust..[not judgment]

that all such bondages..can be broken,..and deliverance..from demons..
is made possible..by the victory..Jesus achieved...simply by showing..[doing/being]..
the embodyment..of forginess..[and love of neighbour]..

where love is..there...is good..[god].

There is..the law of..sowing and reaping,
which states..that.."whatever a man sows,..this..he will also reap".

Demons work..to make sure people reap..the negative things..*they have sown.
If we sow deception,..we will be deceived...If we sow hatred,..we will reap it.

"Those who live..by the sword..perish by the sword".
For this reason alone..we would do well..to avoid sin.

Only Jesus/living/loving..egsample...achieved..by our simular works
can free us..from sin's chains,..free-us eternally..from
any percieved obligation..power of/will-to..sin.

Once his egsample..frees us,..we do well..to give ourselves..to Him
completely..[by doing unto others he did for us..so we can enjoy Him
fully..and stay out of..further bondage..to evil...
by..freeing others..as he did us...by love of good works.

To the extent..we compromise..with evil/hurt/injury/victimisation
of other..we become..the slaves..of it...and earn..its karma.

Sins..of Omission

God..said to Cain,.."If you do well,..will you not be accepted?
And if you..do not do well,..sin..lies at the door...And its desire
is for you,..but you should rule..over it."..(Genesis 4:7).

Here.."sin" is portrayed as..a personality
with the desire..to rule over us...

[This speaks of demonic..em-power-ments..we accord them..*over us...
by simple..negative thinking..or act...or destructive..or selfish..work/deed

Sins of omission..are the main-means..that demons
get into..or back...continues..
Posted by one under god, Monday, 8 November 2010 5:09:35 PM
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Belief in spirit beings is based in pagan polytheistic superstition associated with disease and causes of mental disturbances, death etc. We now recognise this as bacteria and natural causes. The only spirits we need to confront is the evil human spirit. The ancients believed that ideas were transmitted by spirits, wether good or evil.

Christ came to remove the superstitious belief of spirits that holds people in bondgage of fear.

For people who believe in spirits they believe they are real; and authorative casting out has assisted the sufferer to believe they are permanently removed. However such exorcism superstition today in Western society does more harm than healing. We have professional psychatric counsellors well able to identify causes of mentally disturbed individuals.
Posted by Philo, Monday, 8 November 2010 7:14:45 PM
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You’ve gotta be kidding me, Philo.

<<Christ came to remove the superstitious belief of spirits that holds people in bondgage of fear.>>

On the contrary, the alleged Jesus (if he did indeed exist) perpetuated myths about spirits...

“Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.” (Matthew 10:8)

Jesus could have provided valuable medical information that couldn’t have been known in those days and thus showing himself to be a god. But did he? No, instead he blamed epilepsy on demons...

“When they came to the crowd, a man approached Jesus and knelt before him. “Lord, have mercy on my son,” he said. “He has seizures and is suffering greatly. He often falls into the fire or into the water. I brought him to your disciples, but they could not heal him.” “You unbelieving and perverse generation,” Jesus replied, “how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring the boy here to me.” Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, and he was healed at that moment.” (Matthew 17:14-18)

Instead of helping mankind to progress by providing us with valuable knowledge, Jesus condemned us to centuries of bloodshed and barbarianism with his deliberate, careless and irresponsible perpetuating of superstition.

Unless, of course, you look at the situation rationally and simply conclude that he was a made-up figure of those times.
Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 8 November 2010 8:09:14 PM
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