""" RAW= "We only need 3 RULES.... RULES ? ? ? errrr.. a 'rule' sounds verrrrry much like "telling others how to live" no? """

Oh No, ALGOREisMaKinGmyHeAdSpIn!

We can't have no rules at all - can we? I'm simply saying 3 is enough to cover the 300 million we have now! And that these three prevent the rot we're in, you don't agree?

I suppose if we were to educate people into understanding right from wrong properly then we probably could live with no rules. But then how would we deal with a bad egg? Simply discard it to the dump, kill it? That's what Christ said didn't he from memory? Stone them to death. Remove the rotten fruit before it can contaminate others. Isn't that a rule?

I'm sorry ALGOREisConFuSinG, I'm not very well read on these matters, everything I say is of my own making.

Snag....if I was in Brissy...I'd be there quicker than the speed of light :) I'm im Melbourne mate... but if you know of anyone.. put a contact here if you don't mind and I'll follow it up.

RAW... no drama mate.. I get what ur saying. But I reckon your 3 rules can be summed up in one. "Do for others as you would have them do for you"

The only problem with that 'guidance' is that, like all..it only works for 'you' and it will only work as long as you encounter like minded people. This is why we need law and the force of 'State' -to stop the moron element who don't give a damn about how 'we' view things.

Back to the tasty one...Snag.. I think a Tea Party/EDL type movement is coming to Australia..but we don't yet have it 'bad enough' to bring out the masses.

Though we are approaching it. It doesn't sit well with me that our community has been EXTORTED by militant unions such as the CFMEU and ETU such that their members are all they care about and SCREW the rest of the community. Next time I see an ETU bloke wearing a logo "Touch one, touch all" I'm going to be more than a bit expressive from the point of view of 'The Victorian Community'- touch one of us.. you touch us all!! grrr.. I've punched out one of them :) (He's 6':2" and 120kg) haha.. my cousin.... but in fun of course. He doesn't support the ratbag element.

ALGOREisRICH:>> ON THE SURFACE.... such things as 'equality'..to quote you: "Equality law encompasses all groups." at least that's what the elite WANT us to believe. (surely you don't...do you?)<<

Al you responded to Pelican, but I want to comment about the Fabians fantastic PR manipulation of good souls such as Pelican.

Just as we have the "Money" manipulating the green agenda to make "we" the plebian’s and not the controlling Patricians the ones ultimately responsible for manmade climate change (carbon our enemy, who thought that one up), the Fabians have brought a "personal guilt" trip to the individuals within a society for things that they ultimately do not have control over.

All politically correct agendas work to enforce a stereotype upon the whole society. That stereotype being of an uncaring society where the strong survive and the weak perish. Hence their solution of overt compensation and a program of positive bias to the minority albeit at a cost to the majority.

All societies have a structure of law that gives its citizens legal equality. All societies have humanitarian organizations that help to bring social equality to the unfortunate and disadvantaged, but only first world societies have the Fabians blame agenda which is ultimately meant to control society through social engineering rather than the ballot box.

TBC

The fall of the Soviets is the worst event to befall Western democratic societies. The Marxist/ Leninist/ Trotskyite Western ideologues had lost the big one when it comes to the "socialist experiment" so the agenda was focused on white anting away at our freedoms and the way of life that the society had naturally evolved into by making us feel personally responsible for things which we cannot change, the luck of the draw if you will or just plain life and fate, things we cannot control or fully compensate for.

In real social betterment terms what have PC agendas achieved, a few more disabled car spots, a few extra access ramps and disabled toilets, the curbing of verbiage that offends a minority, and don't forget the protocols such as acknowledging the first owners of this land at every school and civic function while the mortality rate of our indigenous brothers and sisters is still third world, and that goes for the children as well given the same number of Aboriginal children die before the age of five as in African nations.

In real social betterment terms the local lions club or rotary club do more for the equality and betterment of society than the control seeking socialists that have infililtrated our local state and commonwealth public service and our children’s education system. Another example of PC failure is the school curriculum that strives for mediocrity rather than excellence. No such thing as a dumb kid was what one fool teacher told me when defending why the syllabus is set to favour the non talent and striving for success is not encouraged. This is best exampled by Australia’s latest figures relating to subjects that involve higher mathematics, we have the lowest number of students qualifying to study further in these fields than ever before, but our population is higher, how does that work out.

""" the moron element """

These are what I call socialists, capitalists, religious fanatics, unions, NGO's, and all the other groups we have these days.

They're all idiots that have no capacity to think for them selves. Sure some of them are highly educated, some can even quote word for word from a thousand books they have read, but they have no understanding of the real issue when it comes to humanity. Or maybe they do and they're just downright evil. Maybe they are the true terrorists?

Take for instance this video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fXtyxH2GG0&feature of Michio Kaku where he talks about our transition from a type zero clivilisation to a type one civilisation.

Read the comments below and all over the world about this subject and you get the same ignorant/evil quotes over and over again. People instantly start screaming new world order and crawl back into their mashed up minds where they scream about border protection, cultural purity, patriotism. Just read the title of the video clip itself. Even our own discussions about forming Australia into a republic are drowned out by so called intellectuals with closed/evil minds.

If only we could breed wisdom into people, because we don't seem to be able to educate it into them. Maybe we do need a another Hitler to get rid of the morons? (Just kidding :) )

So yeah Al, The Fabian strategy is being played out not only by the Fabians, but humanity itself. In the end all humans will live under a type of socialist system it's nothing to fear, it is mankind's destiny. It's good to see though that there are people like yourself that are aware of those that would embrace it if only to sabotage it for their own ends, just like the ones trying to bring in our republic. We must be eternally vigilant.

Sonofgloin

Are you suggesting capitalists are not manipulated or brainwashed.

Al suggests that the Fabian agenda is:

1/ What's mine is mine
2/ What's yours is also mine now if not sooner.
3/ If you don't like rule 1 and 2.. ur a gonna.

This is a simplistic tale which dresses capitalism up to be the fairy godmother. This tale fails to recognise any of the failings of extreme capitalism and paints any form of regulation as the enemy of liberty - when in fact much regulation provides liberty to those who do not have membership of the elite.

Sometimes the 'what's mine is mine' includes the right to exploit workers, cause untold damage to pristine environments (which do not belong to just one person or corporation) and to deny health care to the poor.

All these debates get strangled by strong Left/Right perspectives and Greed being defined by that perspective. Either the workers are greedy or the corporations are greedy. The balance of power certainly has not shifted to the workers - globalisation has fixed that, with companies move offshore to amass even more wealth by using cheap labour.

The problem is greed and greed is not confined to one any one group.

It seems there is never much middle ground and the value of a mixed economy is now seen as a Fabian/Green conspiracy - that is the greatest manipulation of all to deflect the spotlight from the real power-holders. History suggests we won't get it until it is too late.

I would rather live here in Australia where social democracy ensures universal health care than one like the US where not only insurance companies have carte blanche to rip off the poor (no regulation), but where health is only afforded by the middle class and wealthy.

And then to claim the Fabian Socialists or the Greens or anyone who is not Right of centre, are the greedy ones - that is a bit rich.