""" Do you see it now mate? """

What I see is that you're as confused as the rest of them, ALGOREisCoNfuSeD.
Throughout man's history his mind has been indoctrinated turned to mush by all these rules and isms.
When are people going to wake up and realise no human is a god, king, ruler of another and no human has the right to tell another human how to live their life?

Life has become so complicated that we're all arguing in a circulatory fashion of the times.
All those issues you see as Fabian/Socialism, I see as individual rights, some might refer to them as inalienable rights.

When one group or another through indoctrination and thereby causing confusion try to push their beliefs on another, we end up exactly where we are at present. Some try to explain it away in different terms such as democracy, law, border security, cultural purity, patriotism and all the other nonsense excuses modern man has confusingly embedded in his mashed up mind. You need to understand that they're all band-aids hiding the festering wound beneath.

I understand you're trying to protect your fellow man from things you see as threats to your existence, but by labelling them as you've done, you've just shown you're as guilty as the ones you despise.

Until we learn that we have no right to tell another living soul how they should live even when 51% of us are in agreement against the other, humanity will not survive. There are but only three rules we should expect of any human being and they are well known. I'll list them here for all who seem to have forgotten them.

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1) Cause no Injury to another.
2) Cause no harm to another.
3) Cause no loss to another.

These three simple rules are all humanity need to coexist in peace and harmony and to progress man through his evolution to ascension. Once we all accept that all people should be sui juris, then and only then will all that troubles you, I and everyone else be solved!

Think about it for a while ALGOREWiLlLeEdyODoWntHeWroNgPaTh. All these rules, laws, statutes and isms that man has constrained himself with. Where have they got us? When one makes a rule it effects another, then we make a rule to protect the effected, only to displease someone else, then we have another group manipulating all these rules for their own benefit and so on and so on. Has it worked? Is it working?

People are now so afraid of true freedom and liberty, they see it as a threat to their very existence. Somehow they've convinced themselves life wouldn't work that way, that they couldn't have a nice home, a big TV, a nice car, a peaceful fulfilling life. These delusions are just that, delusions and fear generated through history by all these stupid rules and isms.

How many people world wide would it take to enforce these three simple rules?
How much simpler would life be if we didn't need to constantly try to subdue others into conforming to a myriad of false beliefs to satisfy our own personal needs without thought of the other. Would we not all have more time to do what we all want to do, enjoy our little time alive!

Is simplicity really that difficult?

No wonder you had to approach your new fixation from an oblique angle, Boaz. If you'd simply written "Fabians are jolly dangerous, don't you kmow" - which is about the sum total of your argument, it would appear - no-one would have responded.

So, full marks for bringing Quintus Fabius Maximus to our attention. At least it gave me the excuse to introduce you to Plutarch - I'll bet you hadn't made that connection before you started, eh?

It's brought a few new members to your fan club, though.

I think you'll find Beelzebub a worthy addition - his economic theories are right up there at the Arjay level, and his politics... well, the site he pointed you to says it all, I reckon.

But it's all just another anti-Green diatribe, isn't it. Pity CJ isn't here to enjoy it.

>>Just today the Greens in Melbourne called for the re-acquisition by the state of all public transport. They cited 'massive public subsidies' as a reason. Strange..THAT was the reasons they were privatized.. the great losses they were previously incurring<<

Well... exactly.

If privatization didn't eliminate the need for taxpayers' money to provide an adequate service, it was patently not the solution in the first place, was it? What could be more logical than to bring it back under government control?

Sometimes - no, make that quite often - I'm convinced that you don't actually think before you write.

But please, think twice about making good this threat...

>>This thread is but one of a number I intend to raise...<<

It would be a kindness to us all.

PELLY first. You asked me in another post what I was really on about... now, at least I hope you understand why I did not 'headline' it all at the beginning.

This discussion is most important Pelly because you have touched on the core issue at stake here.

ON THE SURFACE.... such things as 'equality'..to quote you: "Equality law encompasses all groups." at least that's what the elite WANT us to believe. (surely you don't...do you?)

I'm so glad you said that but I wonder if u've researched it much?
The whole point of this thread is that such laws are NOT applied equally to all classes or races. I speak not only from observation, but from personal experience.
Let me give you one of the best example of how they are NOT applied equally, and that the 'agenda' of the Fabians is hard at work to specifically DEPRIVE some classes..usually white majorities of equal treatment under the law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Human_Rights_Commission_free_speech_controversy#Recent_cases

Please (begs) have a close 'compare and contrast' look at those 3 cases and see if you can 'spot the inequality'. In particular, compare the Chapra case with the Imam Al-hayati case.

I will avoid the temptation to go on for 5000 words on this.. so.. ur lucky today :)

RAWWWWWWmustard_is_hot.. now you.

You don't see it do you :) You really don't... *smile*

Let me spell it out.

RAW= "We only need 3 RULES.... RULES ? ? ? errrr.. a 'rule' sounds verrrrry much like "telling others how to live" no?

But Raw..what if I say NO..I don't agree with those rules.. I have 5 different ones.
1/ What's mine is mine
2/ What's yours is also mine now if not sooner.
3/ If you don't like rule 1 and 2.. ur a gonna.

now...do you get/see it ? :)

Pericles.. the silence from you is deafening.. should I assume you are a member ? :)

CJ.. ur out of the sin bin now..come on..take a bite or two...

PAUL L.. where are you.. we need your input.

Ladies & Gentlemen, when are we going to stop doing this online?

When are we going to meet in person at a Rally/protest meeting in public where we can talk to each other face to face?

When can we start organising something along the lines of the US "Tea Party" movement here in OZ?

Does not have to be religious, just for people who are neither "Loony Left" nor "Raving Right".

I propose "Cracker Night", arguably the first intrusion into OZ, of the "Politically Correct Thought Police".

AGIR, you can find me any Saturday morning at the Central SDA church, Quay street, Brisbane, 9:30am. Or 430 Ann street church, Brisbane 10:00am any Sunday.