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The Forum > General Discussion > I know your busy BUT..how would you change the world?

I know your busy BUT..how would you change the world?

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give-up?...
NEVER..

we area strange...species..thank-you..for your good-quotes

[who/what..is E.T?]

there is hope..and there..can-be..certainty
certainty..that/things..will get better..
..only when we chose..to try..

i know im trying...
but for now..i need to finish..

the acim quote
<<..ego/based..thus rooted..in error..

[Jesus also makes clear..that death..cannot..be chosen..with the guidance of the Holy Spirit..(M.12.5; S.3.II)],..it is a mistake,..an error,.but..that is all.

It is not a sin,..nor does it entail..any negative consequences..any different from any other decision we make..[with the ego..as our teacher]..[the faulse_teacher]

we all can..reinforce the guilt..we unconsciously..are wanting to keep alive..in our mind..to prove..that the separation..[from good/life/companionship/logic/reason/fact]..is real.

And so suicide..is no more of..a mistake..
than the mistake..we made..in choosing to be born..into the world...

In both cases,..we are trying to deal..with the problem of the guilt..in our mind..by focusing on the..seemingly..external world..and our material-body,..

guaranteeing...that we will-not..find..a solution...outside us
for the answer..lies with-in..

We are attempting to solve..the problem..of separation..in the world,
as if..the world..were the problem..{real},..
rather than..in the mind's miss-perceptions,

where the real..problem..the insane/thought-of..separation..[ergo/ego]..is buried...rooted

And so,..whether..we commit suicide..sickness..or we die..in any other way,..its believing..that death is real,..eternally..a fact..is in error

thus we will remain trapped..in the self-imposed ego belief
in separation...from the living loving..good..[god]

Death does not..deliver us from..the ego/thought-system,
nor from..the worldly realities..that is only..
ego's..errant reasoning..its defense.

Only looking at..the ego-based..thought system..
with the non-judgmental presence of Jesus or the Holy Spirit..beside us..and then deciding once and for all..that the idea of separation holds no value for us..

can return us..to the experience..of our one-ness..with God/..good...with-in..us all

For the world is not..depriving us of anything..
only our..choice/unreasining/fear..
ego's will..to be/separate..is.

Even though..this world..could be seen..as an illusion,..
as are..our individually..sepperated lives here

life..we feel..is bracketed between birth and death..
yet..we..of higher reasoning..don’t believe it.

if it hurts..its bad
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 7:55:21 AM
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..but hurt should be put in its place..
its we..who allow pain..its reality

If we did,..and truly..believe to know..the world’s purpose..was to attack Good..and therefore bring pain..into ourselves..our Self...[sustained to live..by god/good],..then of course..we would never think of..ourselves..as being..healthy..inbody..but of being..'in'..bodies...[ie sick]

But the fact..that..we all live that way..in this life..or the next...
[all-be/it..then in bodies..of light/love..or dark/hate...
the form..function..continues eternally..

breathing,eating,drinking,recreating,sickness and even well-being..etc....thus proves..that while we might intellectually believe what..A Course in Miracles tells us,..

it is certainly not..what we are chosing..
as our life-experience.

Therefore,..the Holy Spirit’s purpose..for our being here,..
once we have been born,..is to have us..learn His lessons of forgiveness,..including the ultimate lesson/..that death is unreal....only made seem real..by faulty thought..based in ego's fears

...that make..it seem real...but logic..reveals..energy cant be created..nor destroyed...thus breaking the illusion..revealing its error.

The world..then becomes..a class-room..in which we happily learn..what He is teaching us...now...[instead of later]..in the next life-incarnation..that Wanting to leave..the world..simply reinforces..its reality for us....

moving us further from..the realisations..in the next.

After all,..who would want to leave..a place
unless..he first believed..it were real..and unpleasant.

That is why Jesus tells us..in the ACIM/text:.."There is a risk..
in thinking death is peace"..(T.27.VII.10:2)...

True peace comes..not from leaving the physical world,..but only through the practice of forgiveness..that undoes the mind’s-guilt..

that is the only true-cause..of pain and suffering,..
as well as..the belief..in the reality of death.

And so,..as we are willing,..at the pace we choose,
we take the small steps of forgiveness..that will return us
to the glorious..eternal_Self..that we could never..really..destroy,

the Self..that has remained..our entity
despite our foolish digressions..into the illusions of..death

of course the [a cource in miracles...is only a guide]
that like all else..needs to be filterd...seeking its good
from its not good..for only good is real

or rather only we..can make bad...seem more real
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 8:01:00 AM
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last-post..re hell...
then..on-to..the light..[promise]

quote..<Perfect_freedom*..is..the law here,..and if
a man..Wishes..to-be foul,..foul..he_will_be.

“I noticed..the whole-air..seemed filled..with particles/of darkness..given-off..by the lost-spirits..undergoing treatment.
..various newcomers..were waiting,..attended by..their rescuers,..

and at..the/further..end..was..a_great_door.

“As..I approached it..I was aware/of..a living terror,..awful,intangible;..but real,..
and/knew..it lay..beyond that door...

As we drew nearer..to it..the nameless terror..seemed to grip my soul..and numb it.

I would/have turned..and fled,..
but my guide urged/me..to go forward.

“Now we stood..in front of it,..and suddenly..it was flung-open..and a rescuer..and his-charge..sprang in.

“The terror..seemed to flow in..with the darkness,..and I cowered back against my guide...Quickly..the door closed to;..yet in that brief instant..I saw quite plainly..that the/fugitives..had been pursued..up to the very door..itself,

and..I heard the wild-yell..of baffled/fury..and hate
as their..pursuers found themselves..kept back..by the wall of Good Thoughts,..which they..could not penetrate*.

“‘How was it,’..I asked my guide..‘that the pursuers
were_not-able to prevent..this man..reaching safety?’

“‘Each rescuer..carries around him..a wall of faith..and good thoughts*,..which these evil-spirits..cannot penetrate..unless*..he himself..makes a breach..in it..{by giving way*..to..any of the
temptations..with which..they will*..attempt..to lure him back.

The poor..lost-soul,..if he really desires..to progress,..can*,
..with the permission..of the rescuer,..pass within this wall..and so be/safe.

But if the rescuer refuses,..he cannot,
and if..while protected with it..he ceases to desire..to progress,..
he will be*..at once driven out..and so fall a victim..to his pursuers.

“‘Often and more-often..this does happen..and that is why
those..who take up..this work must-be..gifted with the greatest patience.

After one has striven..so hard..and risked so much,..it is
indeed hard..to see..the fruits-of_victory..torn from..our very grasp.’

“We turned,..and very thankful..was I
to escape..from the proximity..of that nameless-terror.

“‘Are there..any hospitals..similar to this..in the realm of half-belief?’..I inquired...“‘Yes’..my guide answered,..but each..for a different kind-of..case.

Many people..who suffered from..mind_troubles..on earth..come to that realm...They fall..into two divisions:

those..whose minds were..unable to work,
owing to some physical defect,{those forcing..re-incarnation}..

and those..whose/minds..themselves were affected...[by injury..or karma]’

“‘The first-group..may be..subdivided..into those whose..physical-defects,..being..present..from birth,..prevented all development,..

and those..whose minds,..having developed,
were suddenly unhinged..by some physical-accident.

These latter..need but..little treatment;..but the other groups*..need treatment..which,..in some cases,..measured by earth-time,..seems/very-long.

“‘You shall see..these hospitals..at another time’

“We then quickly passed out of the House of Refuge..and through the darkness..out of Hell.

Thus ended..this..strange_lesson*.”
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 9:06:09 AM
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life is about...living it
not..just..tal-king..about it

in..the spirit-realm..To teach..is to demonstrate...
thus..we learn by doing/seeing..

[you might recall...the..'teacher'..asking questions...because they know..we have..allready witnessed/the..'learning...we just need to recall..the teaching..it revealed

There are..only two..thought-systems,..
you demonstrate..that which..you believe..

one..or the other..is true..{all_the-time}...From your
demonstration..others learn,..and so do you.

The question..is not..whether*..you-will..teach,
for in that..there is no choice.

The role of teaching..and learning..is actually reversed..in the thinking of the world...The reversal is materially-characteristic...but..spiritually void.

[on earth]..It seems..as if the teacher..and the learner are separated,..
the teacher giving..something to the learner..rather than..to himself.

Further,..the act of teaching..is regarded as a special activity,..in
which one engages..only a relatively..small-proportion..of one's time.

The spirit,..on the other hand,..emphasizes that to teach..<is>..to learn,..so that..teacher and learner..are the same...It also emphasizes..that teaching..is a..constant process;

it goes on..every moment..
and continues..into sleeping_thoughts..as well...

so lets diverge..into the sleeping..thoughts..

how often..have we heard..of artists..dreaming inspiration...lets look at..the other side..of this..[chapter/25...gONE_WEst]

quote..<<How the
Spirits Inspire Men on Earth

“Here..all the arts..have reached..a far higher_stage..of excellence than..anything of which..you are aware..on earth.”

J.W...“But what good..are these designs?..Do you build/houses..here?”
H.J.L...“We can..and sometimes do,..but

most often..we endeavor to..impress*..our ideas..upon living-[mankind]..and get them..to build them..on the material plane.

Let me tell you..that all*..inspiration..comes..from this*-side.

The works of genius..are really the inspirations..of the
spirits..acting through that person..who is really mediumistic.

This partly explains..why so-many..men of genius..are of an..erratic/temperament,..
and often of..an unsatisfactory..moral-attitude...or ego

Being mediumistic..they are liable/to..fall a victim to..undesirable influences..evil-spirits,..in fact"...{as much as good..thus its important..to filter..good..from that not good...ie keep positive thought..[love]}

J.W...“Do you mean,then,..that no great inventions..originate on the earth,..
or does this/statement..refer only to..artistic-inspiration? “

H.J.L...“ Art,..literature,..music,..even mechanical inventions,
are almost*..always..inspired from..this side.

Slight improvements..and adjustment..to enable the great_idea..to fit
the conditions of earth life..are the kind of..advances..which men make on earth...by trial/error..
but the inspiational..hunch/idea...form..
was first created..in the other realm

I hesitate..to say..that no great idea..was ever invented
on the earth,..atleast..I know of none,..and am sure/that..they are very few..and far between.

“This explains..in part why it-is..that progress is so slow..in the early centuries..of life..on this...plane-t..and..of late has proceeded..at such a rate.

“Men..come-over..to us with..
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 7:08:56 PM
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some knowledge..and a keen interest..in various subjects,
and in these..more advanced/surroundings..they discover new laws,..and in the light of this..new knowledge..inspire those..who are following..in their footsteps...

{having..their mind..in synche...with their...teacher/inspiration}

“All the same,..men are often very stupid.

We send out..a brilliant idea,..and the best-parts..are often misunderstood,,or fail to penetrate,..the denser minds..of/those..still on earth.

Again and again..we see our finest ideas..
reduced to a miserable travesty..of their real-form/inspired here.

As a man gets older,too,..he often..seems to grow more material,..especially if he/has..become prosperous.

This leads..to poorer,or,..more commonplace work,
for..the finer ideas..are no longer able to..penetrate..{his ego}...

“Look at..this idea..splendid,isn’t it?..Renaissance style,..but far finer than anything..they’ve got on earth.

But my partner..had not realized..how important..heating and lighting are,I’m correcting that...Still,I don’t suppose..even a feeble
imitation of it..will ever be built on earth...{Gaudi-cathedral..began in 1883...prior to this writing]..

It’s..such a materialistic-age..that we simply cannot get our ideas through,..and even when we do get..a man to produce a colourable
imitation..of some really fine inspiration,..that man..seldom gets the opportunity of carrying-it..out,

the people who pay..being of course far more materialistic..in art matters..than the artists...That is why..the earlier periods,..for example,..the Middle Ages,..were so much/finer..they were less materialistic,..and so responded..more to our inspirations.”

[note..but often via burdening,the poor..
with new taxes..topay..for-it]

J.W...“Then no man..on earth.deserves the credit..of any great idea?..
The credit is due to..the..‘mighty dead?’”

H.J.L.“On the contrary,..they deserve all/the credit..they can get,..for it means that..they have preserved..and developed*..their higher..spiritual faculties,..at any rate..on the artistic..or engineering side.

This..at any rate..is something.

Even..a blackguardly,immoral-man,..who..seems materialistic on most matters,..must have developed..his spiritual faculties to some extent if he is..able to receive..and carry out fine..inspirations..sent from this side.”

J.W...“But you spirits..deserve the credit for..the ideas themselves. Don’t you feel it a..little unjust..that you should get..no credit for them?”

H.J.L...“Not the slightest...Jealousy,..like other mortal sins,
is left..on the threshold of Hell...We work as an amusement..simply for the love/of..our work.

We seek..neither fortune..nor fame;
the joy of..producing good work..is the only aim

that and the desire to help
those..still on earth.”
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 7:23:58 PM
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an..amusing..musing
Who Are Teachers?

A teacher..is anyone..who chooses to be one...by egsample

His qualifications..consist solely in this;..somehow,..somewhere..he has made..a deliberate choice..in which..he did not see..his interests..as apart from..someone else's.

Once he/has done that,..his road is established..and his direction is sure.

A light has..entered the darkness...It may be a single light,..but that is enough.

He has..entered an agreement..with Good..even if..he does not yet..believe in Him.

He has become..a bringer of salvation...He has become a teacher...They come
from all over the world...They come from all religions..and from no religion.

They are the ones..who have answered...The Call is universal.
It..goes on all the time..everywhere...It calls for teachers
to speak..for love/by works..and..by their realiation to do good..redeem the world.

Many hear It,..but few will answer...Yet it is all..simply..a matter of..will..and time.

Everyone will answer..in the end,..but the way..to the end..can be a long,
but what else is there worthy of your highest effort?..the end is a..long way off.

It is because of this..that the plan..of the teachers was established.

Their..function is to save time...Each one begins..as a single light,
but with the Call..to live better/doing better..at its center
it is a light..that cannot be limited....here..nor there.

And each one..saves a..thousand years of time..as the world judges it
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 8:14:34 PM
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