i can only agree[merv]
but we get the govt...we deserve

[just as we get the docters/medical system...
we earn/by not questioning authority]..more later

raw...mustard makes some good valid points
corperations...[especially multinational..ones...
that are playing their games...beyond..national control mechanisms
need to define...who's authority..they claim to be subject to

[to wit...where they got their regestrations..to incorperate
determines the rules they ARE bound by]

multi/national registration..nessitates obeying multi obligations
binding it to pay..in each juristiction..it claims regestration in

no regestration..specificlly
in any/binding/obligated juristiction..
SHOULD_mean..they cant do business...there

and yes polititions..and business...
should be held fully accountable
[to whom much is given...etc]

if govt isnt obliged..to serve its people[and THEIR estates]
and chose to serve treason..that needs to be accounted for

the free-market must/not..be code
for irresponsable/un-accountable/beyond a-full accounting

rusty..<<I would like a..(DNA)..mutation/detection-system..that/can detect..a single..random/nucleotide-alteration>>dream-on..rusty

see/that would need a mean-type...or an ideal
and were getting close to the germanic obsession/there

if you/dont-meet..their/idea-of..perfect measure...
what do you recomend[termination?]

<<in/a..150 base-pair..oligo-nucleotide..when mixed..with ten million oligos..corresponding/to..the "wild-type".>>there is no wild-type i know-of that has 150..base-pairs

but mixing...ten/million..oligo-nucleotides
sounds like the..mythical*...genesis-soup..

needed..to-make/this..first-life/specualtion..in the defunct/theory of evolution...lol..by accident...that escapes science..actually replication..their theory

..revealing the lie of evolution

<<Such/a..detection-problem..exceeds/the resolution..and sensitivity of mass-spectrometry>>>and any-other destractions..of science methodology...but at last we agree

<<The monitoring/of..the acute and residual-effects..of mutagen/carcinogen..>>>is compounded..by the fact we..all*..got millions..of them..[one/in 200 cellular divisions..is a mutation

[and science cant/sepperate..one from..the other]

either-way..it couldnt evaluate docters/making medical error..ie..their everydat/omnipotant..errors in<<workplace accidents>>>let alone..<<..long-term smokers>>>noting diesal/wood-smoke are the two highest-causes of lung-cancer.

<<HIV>>.was introduced..into people..
via..using..monkey-serum..and live virus..to make polio-vacine

just.like..they made bird/swine-human flue..in their bacteria
medical malfeasance...all round

<<The..monetary cost,..obviously,..would/be..enormous>>>

yes..it WAS..
and still-is.

docters/doing..murder...
and no autopsee..to expose..their complicity

shame/shame/same

one under god: Everything you have posted is true. Do you proposed that we don't sign documents that bind us with conditions? How do you get away with not signing a birth cert? Is that possible in any developed country? How to we change the power and control we have to live with?

Intriguing thought, Rusty Catheter.

>>Such early testing would add a likely 10 years to the life of roughly 30% of all western-lifestyle people and possibly more in command economies that forcibly applied such testing. That'll do me. The merely monetary cost, obviously, would be enormous.<<

Not only that, but you would be contributing substantially to the ongoing overcrowding of our planet.

With even more old people.

Ludwig won't be happy.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4004#99382

"Of course, continuous rapid population growth makes it a whole lot harder to wean ourselves off of our dependency on oil and to reduce emissions, no matter which alternative energy source or combination of sources we might use."

But as far as the question "how would you change the world?" goes, that's pretty powerful stuff.

OUG,

I thought your topic header was cute. My response is genuine.

What I proposed is a perfectly reasonable thing, desirable and perhaps technically feasible. It is certainly what I would change about the world if I could, as it would lead immediately to a feasible blood test for cancer-causing somatic mutations.

I assure you my terminology may be a bit dated but accurately describes some necessary components of all DNA analysis.

Conspiracy theories about HIV are not helpful. Monitoring the virus, and mutant sub-populations of virus within a patient is already useful, just inconvenient. I would change this.

Rusty

OUG I am not sure how to change the world but I know a less corporatised world would be my first in the wish list. Where corporations no longer have the power to dictate to governments and where vested interests tend to favour a small elite.

A world where the environment is valued as essential to human wellbeing including more attention to overpopulation and economic inequity that leads to disenfranchisement and poverty.

I tend to like the idea that Gilbert Holmes approached in one of his articles - a more cooperative system that ensures many essential services are owned by the people and where the profit motive does not impede efficient delivery of services that are assumed by the payment of taxes. This can be had while still valuing and rewarding entrepreneurial endeavour but not at the expense of a greater goal.

Perhaps overall a shift to an emphasis on the 'WE' rather than the 'I' but not so far as to stifle individual creativity or freedoms at the personal level. A shift back to really valuing our children and ensuring they are able to be raised in healthy and happy homes and that the push for 'adult' freedoms does not outweigh the rights and wellbeing of children.

Too many issues to list here but that is some of it in a nutshell.

good/points..pelican

pericules...come-on..you got/some..great-ideas
just simple/ones..will do..or even..complicated
we need..the heavy-hitters in/on..this

[ok i know...people/wont-listen..but we..got-to try]

jinny/quote..<<Do you/propose..that..we don't sign/documents..that bind us..with/conditions?>>

i cant advise..anything..like that/jinny
im/trying..but its..a hard-road

a contract...needs-be..two/parties..signing
if your..the only one required..to sign...
thats where..you/need-to..think-why

see...in begging in writing...[applying]...
we are being bound..into a legal mine-field...

our sig-nature[mark]..is binding..in/this-realm...
and..the/next..[lower-realms]..[if its not..in the contract/specificlly]

<<How do/you..get..away/with..not signing..a birth cert?>>

thats the..neat/trick...we didnt/sign..
our parents..signed..then/we-were..required to confirm..it...when we reached..voting-age

but lets..egsamine..just/what..we signed...as being true
we signed..the details..of our birth..true
but we dont recall..it as true,from our/own..'first-hand'...knowing

thus/legally..its here-say..that we/trust..or were/led..to believe..true

[if the/govt..cant certify..it/true..itself..

how can we?]

<<Is..that possible..in any..developed/country?>>
yes..its a clever...scam...
they claim the/right..to act/..on our-behalf
[via founding-documents..but courts..dont recognise..them
as binding on..themselves...its only..the delusion..they feed-us

fact-is..if they-have..no/contract
no injured/party..
courts have..no authority

see/how..houses are/being..reposessed...via court/order
thats only possable..because we..remain/ignorant..of the law

were you in/court..you could point-out..
they only got..a copy..of your-title
only got a copy...of your contract

and copy...isnt acceptable...as first..hand/proof

but..because no-one/is there..to point-out the absurdity..the judge gives his/order..[recall-how..possesion is 9/10..ths the/law]

then/police..act on..'the-order'
then the bank..has..'mortgaugee..in possesion'

yet still..no..origonal-title..
thus-it..quickly cashes it-in..sells/it..[again]

here/is..another/trick....you signed..a con-tract
a promise..to pay...that;..has value...
in fact..is/the-only..value..that allowed/them..to CREATE..the cash

they/dont..lend..us..anything
its our..blue-ink..promise[mark]....that MAKES,..the/money

even worse..they..on-sold..the blue-ink..con/tract..as..a security
thus the..fed/made the cash...and then/securitised..the blue-ink con-tract...

and got/the cash-back..
then/still-want...more/cash..from us

[because/they onsold,.,.[securitised..all the contract..and origonal title..that/is the reason..it isnt in court..

[its..in/china..or your/others..super..
or who/knows..but..one-thing/is sure..it aint..in court

[except..i noted..the last/time..i had-to sign..
they wanted..two/copies[both origonals].....
and they kept/both

its illegal..but what/ya..going to-do?

lawyers..make/laws
former-lawyers/judge..the court

even appeal..is made/to..lawyer's
and guess what...over/half..your polititions
are..or/were..lawyers

and by..applying..[begging]..to vote
we give/them..power of attourney..over-us[to/act-on...our behalf]

<<How do/we..change the/power
and control..we/have-to..live-with?>>
sadly..you either..dont sign...anything
[refuse..all benefits..and..do-it..all/..yourself]

or just..play their/game

just love/neighbour
love god..[keep..the love]

and soon..we/go-to..the better-place

[this is..after-all..only/satans-realm]