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I know your busy BUT..how would you change the world?

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noting...there are many..of these..exits from hell

[this/egsample..is a christian one]

Quote:..we passed..{from the darkness}..into a covered/courtyard.

“What a dazzling light!..After the awful darkness..through_which we had passed,..I felt dazed for a moment,..but soon I was able to realize everything...{arround me}

“Around me..were tall-buildings..on four sides,..rather like a great college quadrangle,..except that it was much higher..and there was a roof..instead of open sky...

There appeared to be several stories,..for there were several rows of windows,..and/from..every-one of these..a soft light shone.

Some light,..too,seemed to come..from the building itself:
I mean..from its very walls.

“Then I noticed..a spirit/standing by the door...I knew at once that he was..of the same..nature..as I myself,..though more advanced:

I mean..he was not like my guide..who is far above me.
“I therefore inquired..of him..‘What is this building?’

“He replied,..‘It is a house of refuge,.a school..and a guard-house{combined.}..One might call it..“a missionary clearing/house.”..To us{come down..from the realms above}..

to help those..who desire to help..the unfortunate beings..in Hell.

Back to us..come those messengers..of Hope
who have been..down to Hell.

To us..come all those who,..having begun to progress,..need helping upwards;..and,finally,..hither come/those..who need..only to be taught,..that they may leave Hell..altogether..for the realm above.

“‘Besides these duties,..we also bar the way,.so that none..of the inhabitants of Hell..may attempt to reach/the realm above..save by the hard_path..which is ordained for them...[according as to their works}

The road you have trod..is for those beings/..in that realm..who desire to do good..in Hell,..or such as you,..who are brought here..by their guides..to enable them to learn*..about Hell.{and test..if we are tempted..prior to accending..more-fully..into the light]

There are..other*{for other beliefs}..rest-houses..scattered along the paths..which lead..out of Hell,..to which those who desire to progress may go,..but this is..the great/clearing house,..or perhaps I might call it..the base of supplies..for a large number of these houses of refuge.

‘This house..sends out men..to relieve those..in charge-of these..other “houses of rest,”..and also..missionaries..who try to help those..seeking to become better people..who/thus come to these houses.

{j.b.l}..You further..act..as the final..“house of rest”..for those who are..about to/attempt the climb..up the precipice.

But where do the schools come in?’

He...“‘All..in this part..have to...
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 October 2010 6:57:27 AM
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HAVEto..*..pass through..the school*..before they-can..climb the precipice,..as otherwise they would be hopelessly lost..on reaching the top.

But before they can attend the school,..they have_to_be..received into the part of the building..which is the..“house of rest.”..

Here they gain spiritual-strength*..
as distinct from..spiritual knowledge*.’

“‘Just as on earth..you often have to nourish..the children’s bodies before you can teach them,*..so here we have to build up their spiritual strengt/..one might almost say..their spiritual bodies — before*..attempting to instruct them.’

“‘Compare our work..with that of some of the societies on earth..
..who rescue waifs and educate them.

If you add to that..the fact that the children..are mostly
crippled,..and also mentally afflicted,..you will get a
very fair parallel.’

“‘At times..it is almost heart-breaking,..far worse than slumming on earth...Oh,how..bitterly we blame*those who should*have..done this kind of work on earth!

A man..is much harder to convert..here.’

“‘Often..after a man’s spiritual_strength..has been developed,..we find he is not yet ready..to acquire spiritual knowledge..in the school.

He sometimes runs away{back into the dark...rejecting the loght/love..grace/mercy}..,and is only..brought back after much search and labor....[often by any means as it takes to help them find the..REQUIRED compasion for others]


Often,alas!..he sinks back..for a time into his old ways,..and returns{often}..to one of the even/lower divisions of Hell.

Others we have to send out on journeys,..and employ them in various ways..till they are ready to learn.’

“H.J.L...‘May I go..into the House of Rest..and see what it is like for myself?..‘I inquired.

“My guide replied,..‘Not yet,..but you shall..at another time...We will now enter the school...You will find it more in consonance with your previous knowledge,..as you went to..the secondary school..in the realm above.

The House/of Rest..would be..so unlike..anything of which you are as yet aware..that you would miss..many things..which would be of value.

“‘After seeing these schools,..and also those for the babes,..you will be able to appreciate things..more..when you come to visit the House of Rest.’..
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 October 2010 7:06:05 AM
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“We passed through/..as we did so,..I realized that the place was a castle..as much as a college...Indeed,I found that there were no external-windows..at all,

for these would have admitted..only darkness*,..which is here more than the/absence of light.. being in itself a tangible thing.

“The only window..was one which/served..as a light to guide the wanderers outside..to this harbor of refuge.

The way this..’light’..was ’trimmed’..will astonish you.

The room into/which..it opened was the private-chapel..of the men and women..(for there were women/here)..who ministered in this place...It was distinct..from the chapel for the school..or the one/for the House of Rest.

“This window..was behind the altar,..and on earth/would have been called..the east window...It had,however,..no stained,..but merely white transparent glass.

“Before this altar..the service of the Holy Communion..was always* being offered up...No sooner was one service ended..than a new priest began a new service,..and a fresh body/of worshippers..took up the responses.

Thus ever,..there goes up prayer..for the salvation of those in Hell. Out of the east window,..no big one,..streams out the light of faith generated..by this ceaseless service of prayer,..and intercession.

“How it is in the other frontier houses,..I cannot say for certain,..but I gather that some/are in the hands of men who..on earth..held other*religious views/observances..,and in these service of intercession takes..other forms..than that I witnessed.

[mahamoudens..HEAR their call to prayer}

Like attracts like,..you see,..and my guide..naturally took me to the house./.in which I should find..the system..most in consonance with that to which..I more or less..belonged on earth.

“Similarly,..some souls..in Hell/are drawn towards salvation..by the men who belong to this house,..while others go..to those in which Mohammedanism..or Non-conformity is dominant.

{all bassiclly using..mans various senses]
“there is no bitterness here...Each house does its work,..and helps other houses/when it can...

Thus,..if a Mohammedan..or Nonconformist-missionary..were to find a man/woman..and help him/her,..if he saw that that man’s spiritual-development..would be quicker..if he went/to..the house belonging..to the church people,..he would take him/her..there.

So,too,..with the church missionaries...Moreover,..this transference of rescued..is constantly taking place...“We do-not worry..about our religious/..save the 'word'-differences..here.

They still..exist..to a limited degree,..but we know that as we mount higher..all that is false..will fade,..while..
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 October 2010 7:26:20 AM
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only the truth will remain.

So we go quietly on our way.

“This light..shining from this solitary window..at the top of the building is a beacon of hope..far down into Hell...All the Houses of Rest,..even the little ones/scattered..lower down in Hell,..each has its beacon/thus kept..ever burning.

Gone West

“Having entered the building,..we passed down a passage..and through a door..into a classroom...This was filled with light from the teacher;..but what shall I say..of the pupils?

Picture the lowest,..and most degraded men..reduced to the size*..of tiny children*.

Imagine them..misshapen and idiots..for the most part,..with a low,..cunning expression..on their wizened faces...This will give you but a faint idea..of what I saw.

They were ever/trying to play..some stupid trick..or other
either on their neighbors..or on the master...In addition to him, there were..two other spirits..who stood behind the form..while he taught..from the front.

“These three were needed,..firstly, to keep the room sufficiently/light,..for from each of the..‘children’..there seemed to exude..a kind of darkness..which appeared to be burnt up/by
the light.

Further,..they were needed..to keep the pupils under control...They did this solely by a kind of hypnotic power,..by the exercise of their will..and of their loving-mentality.

If for a/moment..they relaxed their concentration,..at once several of the boys..broke-out..into disorder.

“‘This work..must be very wearying’..I said to my/guide...

[i too am weary]
so rest my self now for some lei-sure

there is hunour in all of this i must share
the mahamouds call their teachers jinn

anyhow keep the love

still giggling about..jinny in a bottle
[it has visionary illuminessance]
'i dream of jinny'
it relaxes me

got to keep a sense of humour in all this
keep the love
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 October 2010 7:30:48 AM
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It is,’..he replied...‘The teachers have/to-be relieved..after a very short-spell...That is why..so large a/number..of spirits are needed..even in this single/institution.’

“‘Are the girls..taught separately?’..I inquired.
“‘Yes,..nearly always...They need women,..and these..need men.

Further,..we do not find..it wise..to let the sexes mix/much..here.

These..are not innocent/babes,..you must remember.

Though they have..the spiritual development..of children,
they have..the memories of..vicious men..and women.

In the school..for the real babes,..women almost always teach..and
tend them,..and we make practically no distinction..between the two sexes.’

“Just then..three fresh teachers/came in..and took the place..of those who were in the room..when we entered.

“We waited..for the new lesson to begin...At once a perfect pandemonium broke out,..due to the withdrawal..of one group..of mental influences,..but almost at once..the newcomers..by the simple power of their will..had reduced the rebels..into sub-mission...

“‘There is no room..for weak disciplinarians here,’..I remarked.
“‘You mean..for men of weak will...No,..and there is very little/room for them...anywhere over here.

If a soul..is weak-willed when it comes,..it has to develop..its will
power at once;..it will make no real progress..till it does.

That is one of..our most difficult/problems..in these schools.
Most of these..fallen ones..are pitiably weak-willed,..though passionate enough.’

“Then the/lesson began.

[from a course in miracles]

I have given..what I see..
all the meaning it has..for me.

I have judged..everything I look upon,..
and it is this..
and...only this..I see...

This is not..what is gods/true vision...
It is merely..an illusion..of reality..as i percieve it..to be..{for me}..

because my judgments have/been made..
on emotion..fear{within}..quite apart from...the reality..love{without}...

How could I understand..what I see..
when I have judged it..amiss?

What I see..is the projection..of my own..errors of thought...
I do not understand..what I see..because it is not understandable..for me.

There is no sense..in trying to understand error...
But there is every reason..to let it go,..and make room..for what can be seen..and be understood..and loved.

I can exchange..what I think i see now..for this
merely by..being willing to do so...

Is not this..a better choice..
than the one I made..before?

[ok that wasnt..the real lesson..just joining-in..some other thought]
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 October 2010 10:33:54 PM
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The truths..their instructor/tried to teach them..were the simple, elementary,..and obvious truths..which we learn..when we are children..on earth.

To these unfortunate creatures,..however,..they seemed..terribly hard.

Patiently..he went-over..the same things..again..and again,..but many seemed/quite unable to..grasp any ideas..at all.

“‘It must take..an endless age..to teach..some of these,’..
“‘Almost endless’..he replied.

‘There are some..who have been here..for thousands*of..years..as you reckon time...
They have-even lost..their memories’..{or never..knew any better}

“‘But..what good does it/do..if they are..so hopeless.as that?’
“‘All the time’..he replied,..‘they are learning..self discipline,..and..that is much...!

Sooner..or later..they will learn..other/things.

There is always hope;..and..time—what is time?..It is an
invention of/men..on earth...which,fortunately,..has never reached here.

This is..some of the/finest..work done in this Land..of the Undying,..but it-is..very exacting work.’

“‘We will now..visit the..'girls’-class:..really,..of course,
they are..degraded-women..who..are striving..to make progress,

but they are..harder to control..than the boys.’

“As he spoke..we left/the room,..and,passing..along several-long passages,..came..to another classroom

“On entering this,..I found it was..a class of girls,..with three women-teachers;..but I had/hardly time..to take it allin..before a tremendous uproar broke-out,..and several little*girls..rushed up to me.

Now,..although..I usually like..children,*..I felt an instinctive..shrinking from..these vicious women*..in their immature Bodies...

I felt..there was nothing/really..childlike in them.

“I tried to..shake/them off,..but they clung..so close
that I thought..I should..never be able to...get away from them.

But the school-mistresses,..having by now..reduced/the others..to
order,..at length fetched away..those who were clinging to me.

“‘You see..how strong still..their old/vicious-habits are,..
and how weak..their wills.

Your entrance..has completely upset them
merely..because you are a man.’

“‘It is terrible,’..I replied...‘But how do-you..manage..to keep them here at all?..Do you do_it by force?..For their wills..are so weak that/they..cannot possibly keep..even to..the idea of progressing..for long.’

“He replied,..‘No force,..as you understand the word,..is employed,but,..at the same time,..we exert..all our in-*-fluence..to keep them..on the right path.

Their..very weakness helps/us..once we have got them here...
They find it very difficult..to make up their minds..to go away,..and so remain and learn.

Still,of course,..some do go back..to wallow in the mire.’

“I noticed..that the mistress..was unable to make much progress..owing to our presence,which distracted..the little-girls’..attention.

I was therefore..not surprised..when my guide said:
“‘We will be going...You have seen enough..now.’
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 October 2010 10:57:44 PM
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