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Philo: << Children learn what adults practise and want to emulate such. >>

That's why heterosexual parents don't have homosexual kids, of course.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 4 September 2010 8:33:33 AM
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So CJ Morgan you mean to imply that children don't learn from and emulate what adults around them do? You can't be serious mate.
Posted by bach, Saturday, 4 September 2010 1:41:41 PM
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No bach. Just pointing out the silliness of Philo's inference (i.e. that children of gay couples will emulate their parents and become gay themselves).
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 4 September 2010 2:19:48 PM
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Philo and Bach, are you serious? Of course children emulate adults, but I doubt there are too many adults out there (gay or not) showing their kiddies how and with whom to have sex, do you?

There are only very rare instances of gay parents having gay children.
The vast majority of gay people are born from heterosexual parents.
Many of these parents were god-fearing homophobes too.
How do you account for that?

Philo, paedophile Priests have had sex with female children too.
A paedophile is an adult who wants sex with children under 16.
A homosexual person is an adult who wants sex with someone of their own gender.
Only someone with severe homophobia would get the two terms mixed up.
Posted by suzeonline, Saturday, 4 September 2010 2:25:28 PM
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In today's society people tend to make decisions
about marriage, divorce, abortion, child-rearing,
and the like, in terms of what they, personally
want - rather than in terms of traditional
moralities, obligations to kin, or the other
impersonal pressures that previous generations
unquestioningly accepted.

Pursuing their own vision of self-fulfillments,
or responding to the social and economic predicaments
in which they find themselves, many Australians are
modifying the family system to suit their individual
needs.

The great majority of gay men and lesbian women,
according to Ian Robertson, "Sociology," form
stable, long-lasting relationships with a person of
the same sex at some time in their lives. Changing
attitudes have made these unions far more socially
acceptable than in the past, and in fact, as we know,
some churches are now performing weddings for gay
couples. Another significant change is the willingness
of many courts to grant custody of children to a gay
parent.

Robertson tells us that, for several years social
welfare agencies in New York and other large cities
have been placing orphaned or runaway gay teenage boys
who are unwelcome in heterosexual foster homes - in the
custody of gay males, usually couples. Another interesting
fact to be aware of - is the rapid advances in the
availability and technology of artificial insemination.
Nowdays, if they so choose, lesbian women are able to be
mothers without having had any heterosexual relationships
at all.

Each society views its own pattern of marriage, family,
and kinship as self-evidently right and proper, and
usually as God given as well. Therefore if we assume
that there is only one "right" family form, then
naturally any change will be interpreted as heralding the
doom of the whole institution.

It is important to recognize, therefore, that there is
an immense range in marriage, family, and kinship
patterns, that each of these patterns may be, at least
in its own context, perfectly viable, and that, above
all, the family, like any other social institution,
must inevitably change through time, in our own
society as in all others.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 4 September 2010 2:35:14 PM
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Suzeonline it wasn't Phil nor i who drew attention to that rather obvious claim but CJ Morgan. Maybe you should address the question to him?

Obviously parents don't (shouldn't) show their kids how to have sex.. and also obvious that to a large extent a child will look to his parents in an effort to make sense of how to live their life.
What they (the parents) do will resonate in the child's perception and understanding of what is normal. This should not be a point of contention. It's a fact that children learn from their parents and the environment around them.

God fearing homophobes? You must be kidding Suzie. So for a person to come to the rational naturalistic conclusion that homosexuality is not 'normal' means that their logic is somehow inhibited by their fear of God? That's a generalist, biased and ignorant point to attempt to make.

I can assure you that there are magnitudes more atheists than priests who commit such atrocities as pedophilia. Do a search for 'barely legal' and see how many websites and magazines of degenerate inhumane exploitative and horrendously 'evil' sites, publications and mass-media that our secular communities turn a blind eye to and in many cases is perceived as a socially acceptable expression of sexual diversity- a mere fetish. These are the fruits of moral individualistic relativity which can just about pass any evil off as a simple right to free speech and thought. Thus the same society would perceive the simple right of an unborn to life less important than a mothers right to kill the child.

"Only someone with severe homophobia would get the two terms mixed up"
Let's not go and start asserting our own opinions and prejudices in an effort to make a point Suzie.
Posted by bach, Saturday, 4 September 2010 3:45:51 PM
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