runner: << Try reading the Scriptures before mouthing off about something you seem to be very ignorant of. >>

That's hilarious, given the way you prattle on endlessly about evolution and global warming, when you clearly know next to nothing about science.

What do you know about science CJ?

Shadow Minister - any Christian, Jew or Muslim who is pro homosexual adoption rights is deluded like yourself and doesn't know their religion. Christianity is about serving and loving all people like God loves us. Part of loving people is to make sure children grow up in safe, 'normal' and nurturing environments.

At the end of the day lets discus weather or not a homosexual couple should be raising children.

Hmmm the weather's not good for discussing this with you bach, runner or Philo. Your position clearly leaves no room for discussion about it.

Personally I'm happy to discuss the issue with anybody and would be more than happy to leave religion out of it. In fact the only reason I mentioned religion was in reply to a few discriminatory and biased assumptions and comments made by certain people on the forum.

Lets try again.

Homosexual adoption rights pose a real and immediate threat to the welfare of children and so should not be passed in exchange for the basic rights of children.

Children have a born natural right to heterosexual parenting. This is not a debate about homosexuality but about the welfare and best interests of children.

These are our children, the fruit of normal heterosexual intimacy and we have a duty of care towards each individual.

Hi bach - I have a Science degree. What do you know about homophobia?