Bronwyn: I got a bit cranky at that old excuse being trotted out as well. From various observations over time I would say that having a wife can be very handy for a philanderer. Not only can they claim to be misunderstood, neglected or what-have-you when chatting up a prospect, but they can safely make all sorts of declarations of 'love' and rescind those when the liaison loses it's shine, by saying woefully that they have to stay with the old ball and chain after all (sake of the kiddies; or wife is crook or some such).

Anyway I feel neither pity nor admiration. I feel some for his wife of course because of the public betrayal and humiliation.

However, I actually feel incredibly annoyed at all these blabbing women. It occurred to me today that these people should be sued or something for breach of contract (or whatever charge could be suitable). The reason is that they entered into a liaison knowing he was married; they participated in clandestine activities to maintain secrecy that suited them at the time. Now there is this blabbing - causing further harm - just out of spite; revenge or greed.

Like that idjit who blabbed about bonking a pollie recently.

I think infidelity is a very sad biz; though I understand it can also be complex and sometimes people really do fall in love etc etc - humans are complex creatures creating complex relationships. However, I think that betraying a confidence, especially for selfish reasons, is really poor form.

The women should have to give all the money they've been paid to a charity or something.

Pericles:"someone should have warned him about i) leaving voicemails and/or text messages ii) having her number stored in your phone "

I took the train into the city on the weekend, something I do rarely. Plastered all over the station were posters in regard to domestic violence, indicating things that "he" might do that are regarded as violent or "controlling" (apparently, in Queensland "she" is never violent or "controlling"). One of the top 4 was "does he check your mobile phone calls?"

Tell me, Pericles, is Tiger's wife being "controlling"? If not, why not? If so, is it a case of domestic violence, as the Qld Government would have us believe, or is a suspicion of infidelity reasonable excuse?

Cornflower:"of all the beautiful, cultivated and discreet women in the world he had to consort with scrubbers."

LOL. Are there really so many of the former? In my experience, the "scrubber" is far more easily found and much more likely to possess the pair of round heels that seems to have been his major prerequisite.

there is an interesting qyestion that arises out of his efforts to buy off both the "scrubbers" and his wife. If his wife stays with him for the next few years solely because he offered her $55million, as reported, what does that say about her personal ethics? Does she become merely the world's most expensive prostitute or does she retain any part of her claim to the moral high ground?

Dear Antiseptic,

I believe they signed a Pre-Nup
prior to getting married - to
protect them both -
so I don't think money is going
to be an issue. It's his reputation
that's going to be on the line here.
However, that too may not be such
a big issue for his sponsors, as long
as Tiger's "game" isn't affected and he
can keep on winning.

"Money makes the world go around..."

(It can't buy happiness, but you can be
miserable in comfort).

Belly “Col I am pleased for you,true.
You say your new bride knows you best, you got a pearl there mate ,all in such a short time.”

Thankyou Belly

My wife and I are mirrors of one another. She knows me best because we think and behave the same.

They say opposites attract and we have all seen a lot of marriages like that

but my marriage is not one of “opposites” but one of “similars” to values/spirit/personality/aspirations/character etc. so much that it is spooky.

Neither of us is possessive nor controlling and we are both very secure within our selves that it relays into implicit trust in as well as love of one another.


Bronwyn “Yes, so why suggest that a man's infidelity is the fault of his wife?”


I made no such suggestion.


Like I said “Where the right or wrong or reasonableness of either party's behaviour lays cannot be assessed or judged remotely, only by understanding the individuals involved”

Which, makes no presumption of the “original fault” laying with either partner.


There are always plenty of opportunities for infidelity but the lying and deceit which accompanies it is what does the real harm. I dated one lady a long time ago, who had been unfaithful in her marriage (a long time before we met) and she was always suspicious / anxious that she too might be “cuckolded”.


The problem with cheaters is they are acutely aware / neurotic about being cheated on.


I would suspect, concerning Tiger Woods and cocktail waitresses, part of the problem was that he just did not duck quickly enough when she hurled herself at him.

Anyway Pericles.. I did chuckle over all those lines HA HA

Foxy your two liners are, likewise, appreciated

To add to the flavour of it all from another perspective:

what is a “Mistress”

What you find between a “Mister” and a Mattress

Pynchme

A thoughtful post, all of which I agree with, especially your reference to 'blabbing' women. Yes, anyone who plays a willing part in such subterfuge in the first place, is in no position to cry foul about the subsequent behaviour of the other partner. It smacks of money grabbing, attention seeking, petulance and pure desperation, though it is a different story I guess if the aggrieved party was truly led to believe the other partner in the liaison was unattached.

Antiseptic

<< Cornflower:"of all the beautiful, cultivated and discreet women in the world he had to consort with scrubbers."

LOL. Are there really so many of the former? In my experience, the "scrubber" is far more easily found and much more likely to possess the pair of round heels that seems to have been his major prerequisite. >>

I'm not at all surprised that 'cultivated and discreet' women seem to elude you. With the greatest of respect, your strident, simplistic and one-sided views regarding the opposite gender, would soon drive most thinking women into giving you a wide berth. :)

Col Rouge

<< Bronwyn “Yes, so why suggest that a man's infidelity is the fault of his wife?”

I made no such suggestion. >>

Ah, Col, so this ...

"imho men who are seen as 'adulterous' are sometimes responding to something their wife is not doing"

... is just you idly talking about the weather, is it?

What rubbish. Without any prompting whatever, you've very deliberately and very obviously put out the suggestion that women should share some blame for their partner's philandering.

Unless of course someone else put those words into your post. Silly me, I should have known. It happens all the time.

I like the way the tired old excuse for philandering always lays the blame at the foot of the wife or what might be missing at home. And the nugget "it doesn't mean I love you any less". Puleeeeeese spare us.

I agree about the blabbering women - equally no concern for any wife or kids that might be affected by their behaviour. Both parties are only thinking about the 'me'.

The reason why scrubber men go for the scrubbers is that I don't think they are thinking about cerebral discussions while pursuing an opportunistic roll in the hay. Like usually hangs out with like.