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A true test for Turnbull, perhaps his last.
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Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 23 November 2009 11:33:48 PM
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Hasbeen, I doubt it myself.
I feel his main focus is on avoiding a 'double dissolution election' rather than what's good for the nation and our future moving forward. Just the mere fact that the likes of the US and China are not committing to an ETS should be reason enough to hold off, at least until we see what comes out of the Copenhagen conference. There are so many sectors on the brink of collapse, retail and manufacturing as an example. Then there are those who look most certain of loosing their jobs due to the failed ‘jobs creation schemes’, like ‘solar’ and ‘insulation’. Car manufacturers and sellers alike may well topple after January 1 when the 50%‘business write off’ ceases. We also face the prospect of increased services, water, power etc. Now is not the time to place yet another hurdle in front of us. Let’s hope, for our sakes, that the rest of them have what it takes to say no! Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 5:42:47 AM
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turnbull has been told...like kevie been told
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This tax will go through whether the earth is warming or not. It covers the loss of revenue as oil starts to dry up and is infinite (will never dry up again) The perfect tax a Polly could ever dream of!
So what to do? Make sure you put plenty of gel on and visit Dr. Ben Dover, I hope it doesn't hurt too much :( Posted by RawMustard, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 1:40:07 PM
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Leaving climate change man made or not ,true or not, lets look at facts.
John Howard demi Gog living legend of conservatives included such a scheme in his last campaign. He said yesterday this was about the same as his. Turnbull is not the right man to bring conservatives out of the very deep mud, he could have been but they would not let him. Who is, surely not that joke Abbot? or the former minister for immigration trying to look not dead as he truly is. Just look at the population of the world 50 years ago. Then now, and then in another 50 years. Can anyone be sure man is not polluting this planet? has not had some affect on climate change? Yes the e mails are interesting, highlight stupidity, on both sides of the debate. A double election late January would have done little good for the conservatives. Turnbull is for the time the only leader conservatives have Wilson Tucky would be better throwing his stones at My mob rather his own side. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 5:26:00 PM
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Mr Rudd and Ms Wong are to be congratulated for being shrewd enough to take advantage of the deluded Mr Turnbull. If he had of listened to some reason instead of being a me too United nations sucker he would not find himself in this position.
Any one with half a brain knows this tax is not about cleaning up pollution. The environmentalist themselves are among the greatest vandals. They fly off to their talk fests and consume as much if not more than the average. They put on a superior cloak and many have now been found out corrupt in lying to the world. A few brave men sacrificed their positions instead of continuing the propaganda swallowed by many. The science is settled alright. And it certainly is not in favour of the earth worshipers. Posted by runner, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 5:34:30 PM
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There can be no way that any intelligent, or honest person, or even a polly, could vote for a carbon trading scheme, with the revelation, of the antics the main warmers have been up to, to try to keep the true facts from comming out.
You would think that even Kruddy would take a pull, if global warming had anything to do with his policy. Of course, most of us know it doesn't, but will any of the true believers do some personal thinking, or still just follow.
Watch out for flying pigs folks.
So we have the last chance for Turnbull to wake up, & do the right thing by the people of Oz. My bet is he won't have enough sense, so it's up to the rest of them. Are they worth the space they take? Do they have the guts to kick trottingbull out? We'll soon know.
Are there any of them with the guts to hold their heads up, & say, enough? I doubt it.