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Stop the War Mongering !

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I say the likes of iran,and nth korea. Must be taught that the world does not like rouge states having power over anyone.
If it means death and destruction to do this teaching, so be it.
This has gone on for years, With a cloud hanging over iran elections, It is clear someone has got something to hide.
Where ever you get a one man govt; there is trouble. The iran so called democracy is under scrutiny.
It would be best to strike first, rather than hang on hoping for change
and running the risk of allowing dangerous substance get into the hands of terrorists.
Posted by Desmond, Sunday, 4 October 2009 4:59:02 PM
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So there we have it! One per normal, gobbledygook, loony
rant from UOG and nothing from Arjay.

I'm not sure why you kids think that posters on OLO should
take you seriously.

Now be good boys and go and play on the road a bit :)
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 4 October 2009 7:32:52 PM
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Desmond"...if it means death and destruction,then so be it.Who has the right to unilaterally invade a country and determine it's future?

I don't think that either Iran or Nth Korea are immediate threats.The most dangerous countries on the planet at the moment are the USA and Israel.The USA is very unstable with economic grief and leaders throughout history have often resorted to war as a means of uniting and keeping a stranglehold on power domestically.

The US is currently looking for excuses for more wars,so they can secure more energy/resources for the military/industrial/banking complex.It is this system that JFK referred to,that controls both the Democrats and Republicans.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 4 October 2009 8:17:51 PM
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Yabby"...hand Afghanistan back to the Taliban." The reason why the US in Afghanistan is because of the oil and gas just above it.It has nothing to do with terrorism,truth or justice.

The stupid thing is that after Zibigniew Brzizinski sucked the Russians into Afghanistan for their Vietnam,the USA was on good terms with the Afghan Tribes since they supplied the weapons etc to fight the Russians.

Instead of invading it, they could have done a deal with them paying for a right of way for the gas/oil piplines though their country and Pakistan.It could have been done peacefully and instead of the money spent on arms to kill people,be used to educate the poor peoples of these two countries.Education brings prosperity and smaller families.

The industrial/military complex of the USA is out of control.

When are you Yabby going to stop playing the man and and enter into meaningful debate?
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 4 October 2009 8:43:11 PM
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Arjay, I am happy to debate with anyone who has half an ounce of
common sense and access to credible information. Believing
everything that you see on Utube is not credible information!

IMHO you simply lack any kind of rational judgement.

Next thing you will be telling us that bin Laden, Zawahiri etc,
are all paid stooges of the CIA!

Have you ever bothered to read the history of the ideology behind
radical Islam, which sprung out of the original Egyptian Muslim
Brotherhood? Have you ever read the teachings of Sayd Qutb,
whose ideology all this is based on? Have you ever read his
famous "Milestones", to see what drives this ideology? Have you
read the tie up with Wahabi Islam (Saudi) to understand the whole
process of what followed?

Next you will be telling us that the Bali bombings were a CIA
job.

I remind you that building a pipeline through Afghanistan, although
considered years ago, makes absolutely no economic sense at all.
Much better to let the Chinese have that oil, that means they
need to buy less from Africa, South America etc, where America
operates buying oil.

The first oil auction in Iraq when held, was not even awarded to
US companies! Only the measly 2$ per barrel offered by the Iraqis
to pump that oil, means that not even the Chinese, who won part
of the first contract, seemingly think its worth doing.

Canadian tar sands give it something like the world's second largest
oil reserves, all very economic at 60$ a barrel. The US can simply
buy their oil from next door, no need to go fighting wars and building
pipelines that will never pay.

But you seemingly lack the common sense to understand these things,
a conspiracy it has to be.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 4 October 2009 9:39:55 PM
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Yabby,JFK believed it and so does Ron Paul who has over 66% of Congress backing his bill.Are they too all conspiracies nutters as you would have believe of myself and others?

The elite Corporates control the USA and not the voter.That is the reality.It is born out by the fact that Obama refusing to rescind the Patriot act and pushes the USA into more wars.

The US Fed likes wars since it is they who loan money to the GOVT(who must tax) who inturn buy weapons from the arms dealers.It is a very cosy arrangement.

By the way The Raw story article, is not a youtube ref or even a video.Perhaps you generalise again in order to pre-judge.

So you would also have us believe that videos on youtube are in some way doctored to suit an agenda?I would more likely give credit to a video with synchronised audible dialogue than many other articles found on Wikipedia.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 4 October 2009 11:42:14 PM
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