Arjay,

The reason you haven't got anything serious out of me is because you started out talking about a topic that piqued my interest regarding the Seppo's and the Middle East. You wound up ranting about 9/11.

I mean, what the...?.

What do you want me to say. Yeah, there's some questions that need answering?. But who do you want to answer them; ME??.

I've seen "Loose Change". I know exactly what you're on about. But what makes you think I'm in a position to give you concise retorts when here I am in rural Qld THOUSANDS of miles away from New York and ANY chance I might have at forming a resonable argument.

Rave all ya want mate. But you're only yapping at a wall.

Stg. I did not make the initial acusation of myself being a conspiracy theorist.This was made by others like yourself to discredit my arguments.Hence I've had to defend what I believe.

Only the small secrets need to be hidden,since the really big ones are hidden by our incredulity.They wouldn't dare would they?It has taken me months to wrap my brain around this betrayal of all people of good faith.Envision this.There have been for over 100 yrs an all powerful elite who have orchestrated wars,recessions and depressions just by the power of creating money.They have determined who gets into Govt by owning and controlling the media.Once you control the media,then anything becomes possible.

Stg"Rave on mate you're yapping at a wall." You are insulting your own intelligence stg.

See John Pilger's article "The Lying Game" http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23597.htm

Pilger "Iran's crime is that it wants independance from the USA."Iran has just dumped $US for the Euro when trading.The US has mortally wounded itself economically and has the most powerful war machine on the planet.The temptation now is to take what they cannot produce in order to get out of debt.

They are on the war mongering trail now considering all sorts of options for limited nuclear wars,since the Chinese will crush them with numbers in a conventional war

*The temptation now is to take what they cannot produce in order to get out of debt.*

Er not so Arjay, because the US owes US $, not Euros, not Ringgit,
not Swiss francs.

The Chinese, if they pulled out their US$, which they have been
squirreling away for years, one way or another, are fully aware
that without the US export market, the first thing to suffer would
be their own export market. The US could quite easily pay off its
debt by simply printing $!

Yabby when the USA or any country simply prints money,they may reduce their debt but they then destroy their own economy through hyper-inflation,and rising unemployment[stagflation].

When Govts or banks counterfeit our currency,they destroy the savings and value of people's production in the form of wages.Industry collapses and hence there are food and consumerable shortages.If the USA had serious hyper-inflation as in the Weimar Republic,China would refuse to sell them anything.China has a huge untapped domestic market of 900 million people.As education progresses there,so will their market.

Why deal in white,trailer,trash counterfeit money?

Arjay, both Japan and China have played pretty dirty in the trade
wars, making sure that their currencies stay low, in order to
accumulate $ to their advantage. The US $ has been overvalued
for ages, for this very reason.

There is no shortage of food or consumer items in the US. If
China does not like US $, they had better stop shipping their
goods there! SE Asia has to learn to play fair in the trade
wars, something they are not really good at. Now they have
what they wanted, a big pile of US $. So who is stupid
here?