i have wrote email after email to every pollitician in asking to stand up in parliament to ask mr rudd to apoligize to all us forgotten australians and i keep sending messages on twitter every day to both of kevin rudd and malcom turnbull but i guess they have me on block like all my emails i send to them in asking for our apology

this is about us forgotten australians just as much as the climate change

the climate has been changing for centries , the astriods put the hole in our ozone not just the pollution,

we all know that

and we all know the goverment of australia has denied the forgotten australians justice

becuase the states desroy our truth to prove our thuth of what happend to us in their state institutions orphanages , girls homes boys homes , state ward homes the list goes on

so where is our apology mr rudd ,

KARACHI..The Carbon Tax has been challenged in Sindh High Court by Sohail Hameed Advocate here on Friday...He filed a constitutional petition against the increase in petroleum products..due to imposition of Carbon Tax.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Regional/Karachi/04-Jul-2009/High-Court-moved-against-Carbon-Tax

Sohail moved to SHC by submitting that the Carbon Tax was illegal and unconstitutional,..and such tax could not be imposed by the annual budget...Legislation must be done before the imposition of such tax but there was no any legislation had been taken in this regard.

Mentioning the recent hike in the oil prices due to imposition of Carbon Tax,..the plaintiff submitted that Oil and Gas Regulatory Authority..(OGRA)..is using its authority in a wrong way and also violating the basic human rights.

The use of tax policy to control behavior of a populace is criminal and unconstitutional...Demand an end to this charade

I think we need to back up and get into what the Cap and Trade Bill is and does...the Cap and Trade system sets some arbitrary amount of CO2 emissions...the money/market is going to create a new commodities market..('Carbon Credits')..where people who need Carbon Credits go and bid on it...Wall Street Bankers are very excited about this.

its/cost we're going to see is at the market place...you will either pay/increase price's or pay the same price for a smaller amount...This is where the speculators/bonus...our new/cost comes in.

The point is the Cap and Trade Bill is a new/tax,..It's apermitted/emissions system that allows new powers to strangle many..a lot more money plus...lol..green/jobs raising/fees and fines from..the new greenie spies/...monitoring our new/tax....regime

does govt have the CONSTITUTED/right ...to create a new form of money/credit/tax?

In Australia,..the creation of legal tender, in the form of gold/silver coins,..is the exclusive right of the Commonwealth Government....carbon credcit=new cash/tax

According to the Commonwealth Of Australia Act..Sect 115,which states:.."A State shall not coin money,..nor make anything but gold and silver coin a legal tender in payment of debts."

I have after yesterday in the senate some advice for a man I refuse to call big.
That term belongs to a former prime minister who strangely grew much bigger in his life after Parliament.
Yesterday bloke, proved my point, you face as much difficulty from within your party as from Labor.
Even there your right to lead is challenged.
While you put a brave face on it, the election, the one that is to and must come, for both houses, is the end for your dreams.
It must come will come, bought on by your party's actions in the senate, a party that as nothing to gain and every thing to lose from this election.
That senate, on current form is a stone wall must be challenged and hopefully the independents playing a game they are unsuited to returned to private life forever.
Mr Turnbull how can you put a brave face on so badly hurting your party? a victory and passing of those bills, a weakened and unfocused conservative rabble are in your future.
With every fiber of your body, try very hard, to get involved in pre selection now, import some talent export the many Wilson Tucky's, the saddle bags filled with rock, holding your party back, that and your graceful exit from the house will be of great service to your soon to be badly damaged party.

"Personally, I've always admired the guy..."

Ever met Mal, Q&A? Ahem!

Hasbeen you reckon Rudd's ETS is bad? Have you had a gander at "big" Mal's ETS proposals?

Nope.

Neither have I met Rudd, Obama, Mahatma, or JC - but that's besides the point.

He's the best best they've got on environment stuff at the moment - he just happens to have a big albatross round his neck (not his fault).

If you disagree, name one better and I'll back you all the way.

"He's the best best they've got on environment stuff at the moment - he just happens to have a big albatross round his neck (not his fault)."

Yes Q&A - I'm aware of the albatross round his kneck (Minchin et al) but what is it you like about his environmental proposals?

Will his proposals benefit the common good or are they just another dud like Rudd's which is to appease the big end of town?