So, who you going to vote for?

Not Labor, Not Coalition, Not Greens.

Wait, maybe Steve Fielding and the true believers can lead us out of the wilderness.

Sorry Peter but I am not a believer, funny thing I mostly do not even understand what you are on about.
Mal is hardly a battler, the bloke could buy and sell all of us, he thought he could buy the Prime Minister ship.
Well he and I got that wrong, look under the carpet, past the Krudd rubbish.
As time passes aided by an over inflated self opinion Turnbull has no chance, his party, not Just Wilson Tucky [hasbeen you are not Wilson are you?]
Is undermining him on every issue, that party bases its efforts to return to power on opposition at all costs.
To everything.
Keeping conservatives happy will not do it, refusing to understand the opinion polls , to look away and say its not true will not do it.
Howard left a weak divided mob, they must soon, very soon, remember they must bring middle Australia back not drive them away.
How many do you think will change their mind about Turnbull?
We laughed at Mrs Howard's lessons in tree planting to John, knew she played a roll much bigger in his Prime Minister ship than we once thought but Turnbulls wife?
Aussies are not seeking a royal family to lead us Aussie battler?

“Hay Malcome baby, you are getting it all wrong. This business of me too policies just won't work mate”

Agree with that Hasbeen. So then, what can Turnbull do to get his mob of me-tooists to take up a different approach, which will both win him power and be the right thing for the country?

Bloody simple. Embrace genuine sustainability.

Sell it well and the community will support it.

I’ve said it all bfor on OLO. Not going to repeat myself again.

See my posts on the ‘Election 2010’ thread, starting here: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2957#67986

mal is in one of those wierd dreams..he really wants the carbon tax..[for his former employers..to trade carbon credits]...

but must be seen to be against it..to get elected...we could do far worse..than to go to the electorate on global warming alone..opposing it is the only hope the libs have to get back in...this is a new tax mate...how hard is that to sell

the facts havnt been discussed...no one really knows how govt gets to greate these credits...but your banking mates know what to do with the carbon credit bonds govt must give to big busoness for mainly foreign multinationasls to do business as usual

dont be sold[fooled ] wuith the green jobs scam either...go check out spain's un-em-ploy-meant rate mate...the only jobs are putting up the damm imported towers...then the multinationals reap the wind harvest for free...the only jobs are wipping clean the blades from the dead wildlife...or cleaning the dust from the passive solar collectors

see we are getting a new tax on everything...that our power cost will go through the roof...and its an excuse to hate others..not paying as much as you..to save big business

but you r the golden child bro..[you know your better than the rest of us...but mate you jumped in too early...it should have been that you did a hawkie[when a win was inevitable..

.but mate we see..your doing the hard yards...unlike krudd who got an easy run..thanks to us..mugs feeding him policy...that somehow he has managed to stuff up delivering....mate you cant lose...a few more points here[and there]...

and the unthinking party faithfull..and good old kevi...loses the unloosable election...if a double disolution..well more fool him..for believing that bad penney wrong...

selling us global cooling..[global warming..lol cli-mate-change...the change..big business could get us to believe/fear in.. enough to give business the credit..it needs to rebuild their business as usual...big bonus all round...except the dumd worker drones paying ever more tax..as they earn ever less

I suppose I try to advance logical arguments, but Belly thinks I am bellicose. He says he is not a believer, but Shrek was not a believer until love came into his life. I don’t actually believe that Belly is not a believer, its just that he does nor understand what I believe in, but I bet he understands what he believes in, and in that respect is a believer too.

It has been a life long passion of mine to debate. I have debated in pubs, clubs, big meetings and little meetings, in Magistrates Courts and even once in the High Court, when I told the useless son of a beech that he was not the High Court because he did not have three heads. Section 71 Constitution is supposed to be a guarantee of at least three Judges on the High Court, a Chief Justice and two others, and this creep was not the Chief Justice.

There has only been one other occasion when a Labor Government did not get a second term. That was in 1931. James Scullin was a Ruddesque figure, who two days after he was elected faced the Wall Street Crash. He lost his brilliant treasurer Red Ted Theodore, because of allegations of corruption connected with the State Copper Smelter at Mungana, in far North Queensland, and it was common knowledge in FNQ that the Hotel on the Esplanade, owned by Theodore had been built with government building materials, consigned to Chillagoe, and sent back to Cairns.

If Kevin Rudd does not address State Labor Corruption, it is just possible that because there is no State election before he must go again, the State corruption albatross could drag the Federal mariner down. I happen to think KR knows this, and his appointment of O’Connor as Home Affairs Minister, marks the start of a new era.

I think we ought to remember that Keating beat Hewson, because Hewson wanted to introduce a GST. New taxes are unpopular, and only two people in a hundred must change their mind before the government changes again

I'm waiting for Col....

Oh, I cant wait. Socialism by Stealth!

I love Big Mal, and I'm usually a Labor voter. He's a guy who has actually done a lot of stuff. Kevin on the other hand looks like he's talked about all sorts of stuff, in steering committees, task forces, summits, round tables, focus groups, green papers and white papers.

Actually I'd even prefer Kevins wife.

I'm afraid I just doze off whenever Kevin starts talking. And let me just say this.. I feel tired... I feal weary.... I feel fatigued.