sadly "Big" Mal is just another pathetic self serving polie. Whose knee jerk self interest got him into trouble of his own making.

But the really sad thing is that most Aussies can't see that the ship of state is like all large modern ships once going their momentum renders the captain a figure head like 'save the Koalas' is just a touch stone for those who like 11 century peasants needed quasi religious icons to give their pathetic lives 'substance'(sic).

We Aussies plebs are so self possessed we have no idea how it's run and providing the 5 star pandering to our egos/prejudices we pay little attention to its operation and even less reasoned thought to resultant journey. Happy to live our lives in ignorance of 'important peoples business' so long as we can enjoy the "cake and wine" narcotic cloud of consumerism.

Occasionally we might stir to utter meaningless political meaningless slogans like 'socialism by stealth' and 'we need more motivation' then retreat again to our troglodytic world bellow decks. All to rejoin the internecine competition for a higher, bigger cabin on the ship of the damned or rather irrelevance. Happy in our delusional part in Plato's Cave.

Not realizing that 'the best ship in the world (sic)' another meaningless term, (lacking real maintenance) is rotting away under our very feet and sooner or later time and the sea of indifference will swallow us and our wonderful creation ....but by then who cares? Big Mal? hardly, Some other political neophyte.

Thank you Sir Humphrey.

Get some help! That whole post is barely comprehensible.

BTW: You don't speak for all 'Aussies'. How Arrogant.

We are arrogant aren't we. I'm sure that is your reality, but why you feel so superior to project it onto everyone else confuses me. Ah, I get it, you're not really talking about yourself, you're talking of those people 'beneath' you, the 'blind' ones who aren't as enlightened as yourself, and using 'we' so you don't get stoned in the process.

PTB Theador is a hero of mine, I have read about him and am not buying the bad man storys about him.
However this thread has bought great laughter and enjoyment to me.
big Mal? think was the bloke who lost his trousers surely not the ego driven gentleman now in the death seat?
Like you however Peter I like a round OR two of verbal tennis, have debated inmost forums best after a few beers in the pub but hopefully with people fully aware Turnbull is never going to lead except over lemming hill into a black hole.

Well Mal, you've really blown it now mate. If only you'd waited long enough to read this thread.

Juat a little read would have shown you that, you could learn mandarin, introduce carbon trading, & even train a lock of blow dried hair to fall fetchingly across your forehead, & this lot won't vote for you.

WE all know that Kevvy's carbon trading is his down payment on his UN job, [the one he hopes for] but even with this, he could, & probably will, throw out of work, all Ozies who don't speak mandarin, & work for the pubic service, & they would still vote for him.

So Mal, now you have thrown out us semi-literate throwbacks, who were desperately hanging on, hoping you might come good, who do you have left? I'm afraid it's all over mate. Get over it, & get out, now, with the little dignity you have left. I'm afraid my first guess was right. You do believe in global warming. You are just too thick for the job.

Why is it that acadenics, journalists, & finance industry types are the easiest to con? They all fell for the Y2K one, hook line & sinker, too

No Belly, I was right with the "Big" bit. This Mal is every bit as thick as the first, & mate, if they have to have lying policies to get in, I'd rather they didn't.

Q&A, you got that right. We don't even have Pauline. Where do you find a goos woman, when you want one. There is Barnaby, & perhaps Noel Pearson could come & help, & who was that Qld National Bill O Chee, or something like that. He always talked sense. But then, so did Beattie, before he made premier, & look what he turned into.

Mal, mate, you can't believe the trouble you're in.

Even the true believers - the ones who swallow Liberal propaganda like it's Crown Lager - are posting tiresome, schoolboy-ish threads about your leadership.

And let's be clear, Mal: you're being criticised by fully-grown men who think "lose" means the same thing as "loose", and who still believe boring, predictable sarcasm is smart and sophisticated. That's your core voting demographic!

Honestly, mate, you've got to slap a woman down on public television for talking back, or shoot an immigrant for not being Christian. Anything to prove your credentials as a reliable conservative.

Seriously, Bully. Most of us Liberals out here don't have the slightest clue about policy or foresight. Giving us false hope based on nonsense should be easy. Just open the John Howard cookbook!

Cheeses cripes! Most of us refuse to even realise that the last government drove the econonomy into a ditch! It can't be that hard to bolster our confidence by feeding us some irrational populist swill.

We're dying out here, Mal. We're so mired in denial and ignorance that we're assuring each other that Rudd's popularity is because of his hair, rather than his star performance in keeping the economy afloat and not selling Australia's sovereignty off in exchange for a pat on the head from a Texan retard.

Please, Mal. Lie to us. Now. And don't stop until the swinging voters save the country from our vapid, self-serving stupidity.

In another thread I told rechtub my words are not a debating style, not a fabrication to prove a point.
It is how I think, given the polling it is how Australia thinks.
A weakened, lost, leaderless, conservative movement is a product of John Howard's one man leadership style.
The lies defamation, refusal to pass bills, [I wounder if senators ever use the rest rooms? it seems unlikely as they pass very little.
Not a policy's its stone walling, stopping a government from governing.
Unlike the stolid defend at all cost, 3 wise monkey ways of shadow minister and hasbeen, the refusal to see truth, I want a better opposition.
I want it more than conservatives seem to.
You lost.
You continue to do so.
Your next chance to rule may well be 20 years away, it will take policy's, ideas, it will take courage, to get Wilson Tucky Bronwin, so very many more out of the house.
And new blood in ideas plans, not the childish spite from hasbeen.
I find it imposable to believe those I mention here are not members of the Parliament, I see the child like blindness and foot stamping of Christoper Pyne, but it could be any of 20 conservatives who fight a bully boy school fight in the house no respect for truth or their followers, sticks and stones.
Can those who care for the party Sir Robert Menzies founded truly tell me after his disgusting record in Ute gate, Turnbull is the man to lead you?
Will he survive a senate inquiry? or will the senate not let Justice be done yet again?
It is no way to govern country a hand full of lost soles blocking every thing.