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When is an Australian not an Australian?

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Banjo: << Which of the alien cultural practices do you think our society accepts, and do you think we should accept migrants that embrace these cultural habits? >>

With the exception of your unspecified "culinary habits" and the vague "suppression of women", all of those practices are illegal in Australia and no individuals should be allowed to engage in them here. I understand that migrants are required to undertake to abide by Australian laws, regardless of their cultural backgrounds.

Nothing wrong with that, but when you propose banning immigration from entire religious, cultural and/or ethnic blocs because some individuals with those backgrounds don't honour their undertaking to abide by Australian law, you cross into the area of racism.

Like many other Australian racists, you seem like a decent bloke in many ways, but that doesn't absolve you of the inherent bigotry of the hate that you actively promote. I suspect that you'll never acknowledge this, but as long as you keep posting your racist and/or xenophobic rubbish I'll keep on pointing it out.

While I'm at it, Antonios may not express himself very well in English, but I think he's a much better Australian than many of those who were born here.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 3:22:25 PM
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Antonio,
I generally agree with what you say.
Where I think we will disagree is the preferential treatment given to people because of their religion.
Example. A school uniform is a school uniform wearing a burqa is against the uniform rules and should be disallowed.
Example. Gifts to religious charities are tax exempt gift to other charities are not.
Example. Wearing a turban instead of a cycle helmet is not on.
Example. Private religious schools get more funding per head than do state schools.
I am unfamiliar with the case in question but an ordinary burqa seems OK the face is exposed. A hijab is another matter because the face is hidden.
The fact that she wishes to be Maltese is her choice.

To the comment made by others earlier. I am a sixth generation Australian a i will be blowed if i am going to accept a foreign queen.
If you which to respect the Queen go back to Britain where YOU belong.
and another thing on this matter, how come there are 200,000 pommies that have never been to Australia that are on our electoral role. How can we ever become a republic?

Murray Suters
Sydney
Australia
Posted by ponde, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 4:13:48 PM
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She is your Queen too Murray.

How do the British get on the roll?

But will it matter if a Republic is wanted by everyone else?

What are the arguements against a Republic?
Posted by The Pied Piper, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 8:32:05 PM
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Protagoras [28/7, 1:38], what's that got to do with the price of fish?

Australia puts refugees in concentration camps. The US burns the disabled to death in the electric chair. Do those cruelties mean they're not democracies?

The assertion was that Islamic countries cannot be either democratic or allowing of free speech. That's easily disproved with a couple of obvious examples.

The death toll from Lebanese suicide bombers is as relevant as the toll from American Predator drones, and neither negates the fact that the employer of such war tools was elected freely and democratically.

The facts stand: Islamic countries can be democratic and allow free speech.
Posted by Sancho, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:22:16 PM
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The Pied Piper, my good friend slow down!
Murray Suters says some truths and it is better to see what he says.
Murray Suters I am secularist and I agree with you about the tax exemptions for religious charities, about the school uniforms this problem is more hot and I prefer to avoid religious and race tensions, I do not like burga, I wrote many times about it but from the other site I prefer to convince the people with the burga that it is to their benefit to stop using it. It is against australia's interests the division of our society, it is very bad to isolate or victimize Muslim teenage girls for the burka. It is better to give them our hands, to smile them than to show any kind of hate or disaproval.
It is not the girls who want the burka it is the parents who press the girls for the burka. let's try to improve our relations with the next generation of muslims and show to them understanding. We want them close to us, let's create a brigde with them. I hope you understand me. I agree with you about the turban -helmet we must protect them as every one else.
Generaly I AM AGAINST ANY FUNDING TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS! If the rich or religious people want special schools for their children then to pay for these schools, in other case to sent their children to public schools as I did to my children. I do not understand why my taxes go for the private schools and not for the public schools, I do not understand why the low income people to support the schools for the children from rich families.
I agree with you that it is time to finish with the monarchy, I feel shame on our age the head of the state to be foreigner, to be a monarch and not an elected from australians President.
About the poms slowly, slowly we put an order to this problem, do not worry about it, many things have started to change!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by AnSymeonakis, Thursday, 30 July 2009 1:01:28 AM
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CJ Morgan
Sir Once I was hard to you! my deep apologies! I am sorry for my behave to you, the truth is that I did not like your behave, your writing style! I thought you are a bully!
Now you improve in high degree your writing style, in realy you did a huge step forward. SORRY SIR!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by AnSymeonakis, Thursday, 30 July 2009 1:35:33 AM
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