Master wrote: Religious people are amongst the most violent, intolerant and murderous people.

Dear Master,

You are absolutely right. I was telling you about the belief when I wrote, "Jews believe that the important thing is to lead the righteous life". I was not claiming the belief has been always followed. However, one flaw that Judaism does not have that both Christianity and Islam have is that is not a missionary religion. Jews do not believe they have a divine mission to get other people to adopt those beliefs. The actions of the Israeli government and any other government connected with religion that uses the religion to justify its acts is a good argument for the separation of religion and state. All religions can exhibit intolerance, but the missionary religions have it built in to a greater extent. Those who do not accept their mumbo jumbo are "depraved, alienated etc." until they come to the 'true' faith. With all its faults Judaism does not have that one.

I've met Jewish people in my time, and especially one Rabbi, who "very much" wanted others to convert.

I think Judaism has not been a "missionaty" religion, of the type shown by Christianity and Islam, because it has not historically had the same type of opportunities. The history of Judaism is MARKEDLY different to Christianity and Islam.

As far as I'm aware (please correct me if I'm wrong), there's no doctrinal prohibition against Jews seeking converts.

Ahh yeth Mathter, what an intelligent piece of work your response to me was.

You assert things that you haven’t a clue about as though they are undeniable facts. We’ve had a grand total of about three exchanges on this forum. You don’t know me and you can’t assert anything about me.

Perhaps you’d like to explain to all the good OLO readers why you choose to be as offensive as you can possibly muster. I haven’t said anything offensive to you have I? I’ve offered my viewpoint….and you can’t handle it!!

Instead of entertaining the debate and asking me to explain my statements, you just launch into an extremely subintelligent rant. How old are you? 80something. More like 8, mentally at least!

Have a nice evening won’t you.

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Now, the simple comments I have made in my last three posts are not without solid foundation.

If god exists, then what the hell is he doing?? ?? Oow, sorry OUG, I mean she. Why is he...er she.. taking humanity directly away from a sustainable existence, thus taking us towards an enormous upheaval and taking billions of other creatures and thousands of whole species out as well?

What’s it all about? How can anyone possibly believe in god once they are mature enough to see how the world operates?

ludwig quote<<..my last three posts..are not without solid foundation...>>..interesting back-story there..im sure..let me guess over zelious/parentals...or two faced..believers...

anyhow..if it removed your belief..in the good of god..it wasnt a solid foundation...neither was mine...mine told me..not to bother with god.

<<If god exists,then what..is he doing??>>...i can only tell you..that a builder..builds your house..[then lets you get on with furnishing/living in it...trusts..you will use it..as intended...

with god..think god as..the means..to give us life...then lets[trusts]..you..to chose..how to live it

<< Why is he...er she..>>gods..beyond sex..but we are free..to think of god..as we chose

<<why god...taking humanity directly away from a sustainable existence,>>...i need to disagree...look at the birds/animals etc..they seem to have means of survival...not spending..one second of concern...loving god..should not be stressfull...

i use god to switch off my concern's...i figure if its difficult...then spiritually..there must be something to learn from the situation..

[what me worry?..lol...i trust god to sort out anything bigger than i think i can handle myself...havnt had to yet...but..its nice to be able to not concern or worry

<<,humanity away..from..thus taking us towards..an enormous upheaval and taking billions of other creatures..and thousands of whole species out..as well?>>..its/thats not in gods plan..;ie not to bring on armogeddon...if that comes..[and it wont]..its from nutters that got the wrong idea of god...[god isnt pleased with murder...he is life giver..[not life taker..he is love..[not served by hate]...

yes there are vile..that would gladly genocide/murder/abort...but god heals all wounds..[this is but the playpen...the real eternal/life..comes hereafter...

an imperfect life time here ..against an eternity of perfect...and if im wrong..i die guilt free..and lived with high hopes and joy...gave love for hate

<<What’s it all about?..>>spiritual evolution...god wants equals..[god is one..that gets lonely...he knows all...that can get to be a huge concern......am i..lol..trusting..'my'..creation..too much...not enough...god needs no reason..[nor men to explain..[we can know god one to one...personal/god...needing no intermediatries

<<How can anyone possibly believe in god once they are mature enough to see how the world operates?>>.this realm isnt perfect...[to our judmental eyes...but if we can know one thing...god gives justice in the end...[and grace]

Ludwig,
we've been using creation mythology
to accumulate knowledge
from the beginning of time.
nowadays god is our hard drives.

Luddite (Ludwig) wrote, "God'th a bloody bloomin blithththtering dthrongo"

and

Luddite (Ludwig) wrote, "God's a bloody drongo"

and

Luddite (Ludwig) wrote, "God's a bloomin drongo"

Boy Luddy, keep up the intelligent, insightful posts ol' boy!