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Is God back?

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You be the judge of that. This is what the Statute says, and all these Judges and Magistrates in Australia are supposedly sworn to allegiance to the Sovereign who says here, that in order to take this Holy Office, as Queen, I bend my knee before Almighty God.

CORONATION OATH

The Statute is 1 Will & Mary C 6 ( Coronation Oath ) (1688) and may be found in Halsburys Statutes of England Vol 4 Constitutional law. Section 3.
Will you solemnly promise and sweare to governe the people of this kingdome of England and the dominions thereto belonging according to the Statutes in Parlyament agreed on and the laws and customs of the same?
The King or Queen shall say: I solemnly promise soe to doe.
Archbishop or bishop,
Will you to your power cause law and justice in mercy to be executed in all your judgments
King and Queene
I will
Will you to the utmost of your power maintaine the laws of God the true profession of the Gospell and the Protestant reformed religion established by law? and will you preserve to the bishops and clergy of this realme and to the churches committed to their charge all such rights and privileges as by law doe or shall appertaine unto them or any of them.
King and Queen
All this I promise to doe.
After this the King and Queen laying His and Her hand on the Holy Gospells shall say,
King and Queene
The things which I have here promised I will performe and keep,
Soe Help me God.
Then the King and Queene shall kiss the booke.

This is faithfully reproduced from Halsbury’s Stautes of England 3rd Edition, dated 1960, so there can be no doubt whatsoever that it was in force in 1828 when the Australian Courts Act 1828 was enacted and adopted. If you look at S 11 of the Australia Act 1986 you will see that the Australian Courts Act 1828 is continued except for the abolition of appeals to the Privy Council.

Judges are not Christians, honest or loyal.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:12:36 AM
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While I am posting, just so as you know how solid is the perfidy of the High Court and the members of the Parliament of the Commonwealth for the past sixty odd years, in exceeding their legislative powers, and failing to abide the Constitution, which is said to bind them, as judges courts and people, none capitalized. The Magna Carta comes from the same source.

Magna Carta 1297 Statute
Clause 14: [14] A Freeman shall not be amerced for a small fault, but after the manner of the fault; and for a great fault after the greatness thereof, saving to him his contenement; and a Merchant likewise, saving to him his Merchandise; and any other's villain than ours shall be likewise amerced, saving his wainage, if he falls into our mercy. And none of the said amerciaments shall be assessed, but by the oath of honest and lawful men of the vicinage. Earls and Barons shall not be amerced but by their Peers, and after the manner of their offence. No man of the Church shall be amerced after the quantity of his spiritual Benefice, but after his Lay-tenement, and after the quantity of his offence.
Clause 29: [29] No Freeman shall be taken, or imprisoned, or be disseised of his Freehold, or Liberties, or free Customs, or be outlawed, or exiled, or any otherwise destroyed; nor will we pass upon him, nor condemn him, but by lawful Judgment of his Peers, or by the Law of the Land. We will sell to no man, we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right.

This guarantees the separation of powers completely. Church and State were one throughout Europe and there was no separation of powers. The Church as State was brutal, judgmental, criminal, murderous even, and was a Roman Catholic State throughout Europe.

The English did not consider Roman Catholic believers were Christians. Because of that they could be enslaved as convicts. This wrong thinking continues to this day except that the State now treats us all as Roman Catholic slaves, with no Christian civil rights
Posted by Peter the Believer, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:24:26 AM
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Australia was settled in 1788, because the English, believing Roman Catholics were not Christians, had just lost a war with the American Christians, over religious freedom, and needed they believed to have a place far from Britain where Roman Catholic prisoners, and proven unbelievers could be stored when they were not big enough sinners to be executed.

Those American Christians were helped by Roman Catholic troops from France, and French assistance was instrumental in their victory. There are still many Roman Catholic believers in Scotland, and Wales, and throughout England, as well as in Ireland, and today when they are mostly now literate, the hold of the Priests over them has diminished. They can read the Holy Bible for themselves and do.

It is only a matter of time, as people realise that we are dominated by a small pagan sect, centered in the legal profession, before as Christians we demand equal rights to Muslims, Jews, and Atheists, and mount a march down Elizabeth Street Sydney, to the Supreme Court with a demand that we be given back our religious freedom. The Rights at Work people clogged George Street for hours with their marching, and Christians should demand equality.

We as Christians of all denominations are slow to anger and have turned the other cheek for almost sixty years to slap after slap in the face from Judges. One of us John Wilson is in Silverwater Jail as I write. We will be mounting a prayer campaign to see him released.

We are all aware of the incident where another Peter was imprisoned, and while the people were praying, the gates of his prison were opened, and the chains on his body dissolved. The chains on every Australian forged by State Parliaments, and in conflict with binding Federal Law must be dissolved, and the Commonwealth of Australia restored to its paramount position.

It will be a mark of Kevin Rudd’s faith, if he keeps his word, as The Lord our God keeps his, and takes steps to restore to Christians their basic freedom to worship as they like
Posted by Peter the Believer, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 9:50:02 AM
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The Commonwealth enacted the Criminal Code Act 1995 ( Cth). It came is as law on the 16th October 2001. It is not being enforced at all. It is Labor Legislation, and I can understand the Liberal Party suppressing it. It completely screws up the agreements of COAG. The Council of Australian Governments, the rort that makes the States think that a State tail can wag the Commonwealth dog.

The High Court can uphold the Constitution, but Hawke, being a consensualist, instead of a confrontationalist, gave in to a request from the Legal Profession and the High Court to make them inaccessible, in 1983. In 1986, this should have been repealed by the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which as Schedule 2 to the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986 bans discrimination. As a Federal Supreme Court the High Court should take everything sought to be filed, and make the State courts work as intended, as what Gaudron in Kable called the autochthonous expedient.

I say the High Court is willing, but the evidence of that is the Pape decision, where they worked swiftly for once in the last sixty years. In the Pape decision they said S 15A Acts Interpretation Act 1901 ( Cth) is not in issue. If its against the Constitution its not law. They could work swiftly all the time.

All they have to do is get Matt Grey or Deborah Carlshund, or any of the other Deputy Registrars to read the papers, and see if there has been a jury trial, or if it is in Original Jurisdiction. If either is the case, they have the power to use S 44 Judiciary Act 1903 and shoot it straight back to a State court for trial, directing it be with a jury. When that is done, the authochthonous expedient which did not require the Commonwealth to erect a separate Supreme Court in every State, is fulfilled; Its not rocket science, but basic jurisprudence.

19 out of 20 cases with juries settle because the judges of Ch III Constitution cannot be bribed
Posted by Peter the Believer, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 10:25:23 AM
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sock<<<..Humans have dug themselves into a no go situation and this does not help our collective minds reach our evolutionary goals.>>there are those who will be free to see things in this way...but the truth is were spirits having an incrnate experience

if the holy texts of all religions reveal anything its that...there is a clear sepperation of powers..be it prophet and their message...that makes them the 'prophet'...and the believers...or the more mundae of cause/affect...that of unseen cause[spirit]animating the seen

i see evolution as a spiritual concept...that is evolving us collectivly into higher levels of reality...to use the visual egsample of the evolutionary charts...we see life begin and mutate...eventually evolve to leave the oceans...and live on the land

as peter would know...we are under maritime laws..[defacto law of the merchant...contract law]..a judge is having the same omnipotant powers of a captain on the high seas...enforcing their will by threat...not the constitution...

this is an abstract way of seeing the laws of the seas has crawled from the depth of the sea to walk on the land..where we have dead incorperations[with their ,limited liability assuming the rights of living people...by the fiction of the person...but copmpanies are not living flesh and blood human...

they are dead corpses...in-corpse-oration...but in truth..[in the heavens they have no real..living/spirit..[thus no real'life'..on the evolutionally level of speaking..they are simply going to die off like any other mutation..that dosnt pass the test of love

FOR THEM..Religion is the product,and our minds FOR them are like putty they can reprogram at will by simple advertising,...fame for them is the stage,..and if we think we run it,..we best need think again...

but they are only dead legal fictions..in time those living beings sustaining the beast..will wake up to know..the beast[in corpse-orations]..ltd..is eating them TOO

sorry for not being able to explain it better...as jesus said let the dead tend the dea
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 11:50:51 AM
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Thank you OUG and peter for your interesting posts. No-one's Religious rights are under any threat, but the balance of power is now even with no upper level bully-ism. The time of making man jump through hoops of fear is nor practical or necessary. We evolved one's that know religion and its key importance's to worship in peace but some do not do this. ( if you cannot play nicely to what you don't understand, best to take it away for you ) like the boy with the firecracker. An unforeseen entity can create more, but law is the new reading. Every human on this planet has religion automatically woven into one's self and you can not take it out. You can thank evolution for this great gift, but it comes with warnings on its proper use.

1 Do not die for any God.
2 Do not live without spirit.
3 Do not move forward without fact.

Peter! If I didn't know any better, I swear in one of your posts, your insighting unrest in the force, may now you be warned.

Nothing has been taken from you.

You and others need to look deeper, and the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, we can all read. That's right! The bible.
Its value is measured by the ones that teach it.

It took 5 million years to reach this point, and with proper translations of the texts, this will help us ascend into what the books expects of us, and that's to learn the minds of ourselves.

Nothing more and nothing less

Sock
Posted by sockpuppet, Saturday, 1 August 2009 10:01:01 AM
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