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Posted by Peter the Believer, Sunday, 12 July 2009 3:24:45 PM
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PTB wrote: The problem with the Jewish people and the Muslims and Hindu’s is they do not really believe that the God of the Christians can perform miracles, and can wreak havoc on unbelievers if He gets really annoyed.
Dear Peter, They have no problem. They don't accept your superstition. They have their own superstitions. It's you that have the problem. There are no miracles of any kind from any God. It is an unreasonable God who would wreak havoc on decent people because they don't accept the Christian mumbo-jumbo. A Muslim might claim that the problem with Christians is that they don't accept Allah. Jews don't have that kind of bigotry. They believe that the important thing is to lead a righteous life. If you do it doesn't matter what mumbo-jumbo you believe. If you don't it also doesn't matter what mumbo-jumbo you believe. Posted by david f, Sunday, 12 July 2009 3:39:50 PM
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I am fascinated with the reference to Hillsong in the article by the secularists on OLO on Queensland Education. Hillsong is a Sydney Church, and only just got an affiliated Church in Queensland when one voted to become part of the worldwide Hillsong phenomenon. It must be the music. The song, You Cant Stop the Music, may be applicable but it is also true that you cannot stop the hunger of people who want to know more about Almighty God.
In Sydney last night there was a packed service in the City, with everyone seated, but not a spare seat in the house. The preacher was a Hillsong Pastor who moved to Orange County California, and has planted a growing church there. He took his wife and children and moved to a foreign country, and has been made welcome. I know that the impact of Hillsong is Australia wide as their conferences are attended by Christians from all over Australia, who come to hear the world class preachers, prepared to come down under to attend. It particularly welcomes Pastors, of all denominations, who want to grow their flocks, and Pastor them in the best possible way. Hillsong is apolitical, but its members form opinions just like anyone else, and they were not unhappy to see KR replace JH. It is an open Church, in which everyone is welcomed, provided they come to worship Almighty God, and not push a political agenda. It has a College where students from all over the world come to study, for up to three years, so its long term impact is likely to be huge, and for the good. It has been said of Islam that the lot of ordinary people improved when Islam was introduced, and it can certainly be said of the Hillsong Congregation that they believe their lives are better for their weekly attendance at Church. We get an enormous number of former Roman Catholic churchgoers, who were disillusioned with Christianity, but come back to the fold, when the ministry is made attractive. If God is coming back, its by invitation Posted by Peter the Believer, Sunday, 12 July 2009 3:46:36 PM
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Davidf wrote that Jews, "believe that the important thing is to lead the righteous life".
Umm David, try telling that to the thousands upon thousands of "innocent" Palestinian civilians murdered by Israel's attacks. Just like George Bush's massacre of thousands of innocent Iraq civilians during the initial bombings of Iraq ("conveniently" called collateral damage), done in the name of the Christian god after George prayed for so called "guidance". Religious people are amongst the most violent, intolerant and murderous people. Religious belief and god worship has a horrible history, throughout the ages, of violence, violence and more violence. Posted by Master, Sunday, 12 July 2009 3:54:07 PM
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The study of Christianity that can only be really successfully conducted when a person is planted in a church, with good Pastors and Vicars, was once mandatory for a career in the law. Nowadays, the study of law is done in universities, with no reference back to the Christian roots from which it comes.
Psalm 92 verse 13, Those that be planted in the house of the Lord, shall flourish in the courts of our God, predates the Christian era, but the courts referred to were even then the courts of Almighty God. Who are we to think man can create something better. We elect arrogant politicians, who have no intention of keeping impossible promises, and we have elevated them into a collective God Structure. The problem is we have elected nine sets of them, all competing to make Statutes, to personally enrich themselves and the legal profession, from whom an extraordinary number are drawn. We have a Constitution, but both Chiffley and Menzies chafed under that discipline. To stop accountability, in 1952, they closed up the universal nature of the Federal Supreme Court with the High Court Rules 1952, and Order 58 Rule 4 subrule 3, so that no one could easily access the power and glory of Almighty God in the Federal Supreme Court. In 1979, these same people led by the Liberals changed its name to the High Court. When Fraser created the Federal Court he made it a secular Court, not a Christian court, or much legislation that clearly oppresses individuality and freedom would be disallowed. What is so good about KR is that he is planted in a Christian Church, and made a promise in 2006, that he would abide the Constitution in Government. What is not so good is that he is still surrounded by atheists and hypocrites, in the career public service, who serve the other team. He would do well to heed Shakespeare; If you would a kindness do, do it quickly, for delay in doing kindness takes the kindness all away. Rudd can fix homelessness immediately, and so can Anna Bligh Posted by Peter the Believer, Sunday, 12 July 2009 4:13:03 PM
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to david muslims have their own miracles[1.460.000 search result
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=gd&q=muslim+miracles&hl=en-GB&rls=MEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB to others no doudt there are other so called miracles for jews[2,480,000..results] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=MEDA%2CMEDA%3A2008-36%2CMEDA%3Aen-GB&q=jewish+miracles&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi= xtian 8.090.000 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=MEDA%2CMEDA%3A2008-36%2CMEDA%3Aen-GB&q=christian+miracles&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g6 buddhist...6.380.000 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=MEDA%2CMEDA%3A2008-36%2CMEDA%3Aen-GB&q=buddhist+miracles&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi= hindu 9,120,00 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=MEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB&ei=hoxZSpylEouqNuWjoUM&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=hindu+miracles&spell=1 so its a basic human condition...to see the miracles...its not even a thing held to those with faith...atheist miracles...[rebuttals no doudt 6.240,000 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=MEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB&ei=6YxZSsy2N4akMa2pkUM&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=atheist+miracles&spell=1 seeing miracles is no big thing...but are we to believe that gods son..made his first miracle giving drunks booze...its just plain nuts...look at the deaths from booze..[the crime from booze....go to any hospital on firday night...see what booze does think..amoung jesus last words he bespake..was only new wine from now on..[go figure..grape juice dont ferment in heaven]...faith is a great healer[as jesus actually said..[your faith has made you [whole?..or well]...also on the faith thing about having the faith to move mnountains god can do anything...but just like a mature man dosnt need to force people into obeyances..neither doth god...those who judge god the origin of any vile...dont get god... anyhow thats it..believe if you have it..[disbelieve if thats your want..[as it says near the end of revelations 22;11 let him who does right continue to do right,..and him who is holy continue to be holy.. rev 22;18..[but none try to be holier than thou deservith..for it comes with great accounting]..above all decieve not the children of love[god]..ok yeah i made the last bit up...but read the quote thyself[] Posted by one under god, Sunday, 12 July 2009 5:28:54 PM
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Neither do they believe that Almighty God can actually heal the sick, in many cases in situations where the Doctors have already told the patient to go home and die. Most of these people who are still alive after having a death sentence virtually pronounced upon them, just quietly attend church and get on with enjoying their life. Many people who have rejected chemotherapy are still alive, and many good people who did not are no longer with us.
We need a miracle in one of the Australian States possibly Queensland, where there are quite a number of Christians in the Labor Party Government to point out the inconsistencies between S 56 of the Supreme Court of Queensland Act 1991, and the Supreme Court Act 1995, which would lead to as of right jury trials in Queensland, in all matters. The Details are posted on an Article site on OLO.
If they do that and restore Christian Rule in Queensland, because of the nature of the Australian Constitution a court in Queensland can do the will of Almighty God, and bring even a High Court Judge to account. The lines up to heaven could be opened and the Royal Telephone reconnected. The High Court opened the way for the reestablishment of Royal Service, in 1996, when they gave us the “Kable Principle”, and ruled a New South Wales Statute illegal.
There is no reason for the Queensland Government not to create a boom situation in Queensland. At the present time there are no courts in any State in Australia. If they restored them, just as the High Court said they must, all roads would lead to Brisbane, and the situation where 95% of cases settle out of court restored