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Where is Democracy?

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Christianity is democracy. That is why it has succeeded in England and in the United States but is failing in Australia. As England is invaded by more and more Roman Catholics, from Europe, and Islamics from elsewhere, its Christian democracy is being destroyed. Our useless Australian lawyers have followed this stupid policy, introduced after World War II by the Poms to show gross ingratitude to the 100,000 Australian and New Zealand servicemen who paid with their lives, for democracy.

The Constitution of Australia guarantees democracy, by its S 79, which has courts, uncapitalised and judges (plural) uncapitalised. Our DADS, ( dumb as dogs droppings) Judges, and lawyers have refused to understand that a Court is not a court, and judges means judges of fact, not Judges as Satanic delegates of an atheist State. Throughout Ch III Constitution the only time a Capital Letter is used, is when a place is described. The Federal Supreme Court and High Court for example.

All Judges and Magistrates are delegates of Almighty God. Almighty God gave us democracy when He sent Jesus Christ to teach us its principles. Democracy is not compulsory voting, democracy is voting as one of twelve disciples of Jesus Christ calling down the Holy Spirit, and doing the will of Almighty God, on earth as it is in heaven. A proceeding in a court is an act of worship, if the court is democratically convened. That is, it has a Justice, not a Judge as president, and twelve members of the community sitting on the right hand of the Justice ( Father) to fulfil the promise in Luke 12 Verses 10-12. When the verdict is given, the promise of Jesus Christ that the truth will set you free, is carried out. Verdict means a declaration of the truth. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, and that was why from 1297, a jury did all sentencing. Democracy is not served by State vengeance.

Since the Habeas Corpus Act 1640 16 Charles 1 Ch X, any undemocratic proceedings in any Court has been void. That is how the Constitution guarantees democracy
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 23 May 2009 8:18:56 AM
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I am still asking why we continue stumbling blindly onward allowing these people, who slurp gluttonishly from the public-funded trough, to control virtually every single aspect of our lives from Birth to Death, ( and then of course we are only allowed to die by a method acceptable to them!), occasionally leaving us alone to our own machinations only because it suits them at the time!

Jewely:
You asked me why I emphasized "Bank Accounts" and "Removal of weapons"......

Before the Government compelled all of us to have a Bank Account (and the inevitable "Tax File Number") a lot of people, especially the elderly only had a simple Bank Book, which in itself did NOT involve "Account Keeping" fees.
We now have "Account Keeping" fees, "Transaction" fees and various other nefarious methods of extracting money from our accounts by these arrogant glorified money-lenders, the Banks, who thumb their noses at both their customers and the Government! ( and yet Government continues to pander to their every whim, denying any responsibilty in applying control to these racketeeers!)

The issue "removal of weapons":.... prior to John Howard`s very cunning method of creating a reason for introducing "Gun Control", nearly every property owner had a selection of weaponry to be used in the appropriate situation and at the same time affording him and his family the comfort of self-protection.
Now the same property owner is restricted to a single-shot weapon, which is next to useless when faced with a pack of rabid dogs!
Another issue in this regard is the inability of the local police to be available and provide the protection that a property owner may require under certain circumstances, especially in country areas!
This again all gets back to the issue of the right of an individual to protect himself and his family from the increasingly violent individuals in a society that administers minimum penalties to murderers and the like!
Posted by Crackcup, Saturday, 23 May 2009 10:26:41 AM
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Crackup

"Now the same property owner is restricted to a single-shot weapon, which is next to useless when faced with a pack of rabid dogs!"

1. Rabies is non-existent in Australia.

2. Semi-auto shot guns are permitted to farmers and are sufficient to scare off dogs.

You further state:

"This again all gets back to the issue of the right of an individual to protect HIMSELF and HIS family from the increasingly violent individuals in a society that administers minimum penalties to murderers and the like!"

Um, some families are headed by females and I haven't heard of much petitioning for arms by matriarchal families. Nor have I heard of families being frequently besieged by mass killers. What part of Australia do you live in? Wolf Creek?

Most murders committed in the home are by males. (Yes I know there are bad women also, please don't start). Also all accidental shootings are caused by guess what - guns!

Where indeed is democracy if its citizens think they have a "right" to bear arms? A democracy like the USA? Such a wonderful example of that "right".
Posted by Fractelle, Saturday, 23 May 2009 11:11:05 AM
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I agree Fractelle. For me gun ownership is not about the 'freedom' to bear arms but the freedom to be without fear from high gun ownership. Have we learnt nothing from the US.

Like beauty, freedom and rights are sometimes in the eye of the beholder.
Posted by pelican, Saturday, 23 May 2009 12:27:54 PM
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Thomas Jefferson."A Govt big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have."

We do not have true democracy.Did we elect Kevin Rudd to put us into $300 billion of debt? They will take everything we have.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 23 May 2009 12:39:54 PM
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Crackup
Judging on the media and their some what knee jerk reasoning which apparently you take extraordinary ques from one could reasonably assume
That you ,
- exist in a place akin to Fractelle's Wolf Creek
-In a suburb with a crime rate that even the media are afraid to report on (somewhere in Calabria perhaps)
- you are incredibly rich and unbelievably slack with security.
- or you as your nom d'plume 'might' suggest, are the proud proprietor of a crack lab and have the bikie thug groups as clients.

Seriously a head per capita crime comparison between say the 1930 and today is about the same.
Those differences that do exist come about by greater transparency in areas like power abuses, consumer affairs, child and spouse abuse (they were always there just not spoken about).
Crimes like burgalry, theft, murder there have periodic marginal down turns.
Look up charmers like Peter Curtain 'the so called vampire of Dusseldorf' Do a search on US cities unsolved crimes (allow a % for errors)
The over all rate given the explainable exceptions are much the same allowing for sociological affects like more people living closer together.
The media exists on sensationalizing the dramas.i.e. if it bleeds it leads. Even mass murder like 911 was blown out of proportion. 4000 people V 40000+ per year on the roads. (cars are safer than the 20 why then more deaths? more cars) More reporting of D&G sells papers to the insecure (reactionary) public. 1930's 100's of thousands killed in unreported wars, Take the US conquering of the Philippines or perhaps the Banana wars...These gave birth to the term 'gun boat diplomacy' yet the Spanish war was eulogized by the US press.

relax and analyze or you might have a.... crackup? :-)
Posted by examinator, Saturday, 23 May 2009 1:23:43 PM
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