“It has become apparent that a certain woman was a New Zealander, and wants to become a citizen of Australia. Under the Constitution Kiwi’s have a special place, because they may not vote, but have free and unfettered access to Australia, because NZ was included in the Colonies who could become a State of Australia in the Commonwealth. Just try again, because unless you are a crim, the granting of citizenship is automatic. “

Peter I was told that for the last few years Kiwis have to have “residency” and I don’t. Stupid me thought it meant I had to be “a resident”. It’s weird; we are considered “permanent residents” for tax purposes. We are residents but I didn’t have this “residency”. I have no idea how the non-english speakers or readers do it.

"i would love that it is as simple[as peter says]..i really would..but sadly know it isnt..we can agree to disagree..i only write that as i think i know it to be..[as does peter]"

I wish it was simple to understand OUG.

"We are still 65% Christian in Australia, and heirs to a Christian tradition opposed to slavery. Slavery could not continue in England after 1215 when jury trials became the standard method of trial. It has been reintroduced into Australia since 1970, when lawyers persuaded Parliaments everywhere to give them absolute power. This is totally un-constitutional, illegal and corrupt, but the lawyers and Judges and Magistrates control the Police and the guns."

The courts have power? But that makes sense, even the PM might do something wrong and have to face a judge?

“Here we should all get behind Jewely who has seen a real abuse of power, and support her in her quest for justice for helpless kids.”

I hoped it wouldn’t be abuse at the time, I was too hopeful and ignored what I felt. When it became quickly obvious how scared the toddler was to leave me I should have done something, anything. I was a participant in this abuse in the end because of all the things I didn’t know. 350.

Peter and UOG, I am overwhelmed. It does not often happen in my world that complete strangers stop to help, teach and explain. It has not so far been a lot of fun learning more about how the world works and I never realised just how much religion there was in the law and how Australia got to where it is.

I think I realised the complaint with the O’s office must be withdrawn. There seems to be no good in this where they send the problem back to the agency one complained about. A meeting to be arranged where they explain to me why it happened and why no one cared would be the final insult to everyone here that loved her. I have a child here that a judge asked me to keep for awhile (me personally), this little one is bored because since lodging the complaint there has coincidentally been no more children placed with me. There is another child (older) who wishes to come stay and this, coincidentally, seems to keep being delayed and she is unhappy.

Kevin is still getting his letter, maybe that wee girl will get one back, one day.

I will keep reading, learning, I’m not finished. The children and how they are treated concern me still and I don’t want other children treated like this, or treated any bad way while in foster care. The foster carers have no voice and there are too many coincidences when one causes a fuss.

I have found to many grieving biological parents on line to ignore them either.

This latest change in law for mandatory reporting with the addition of one word, I believe, endangers children. From “risk” to “significant risk”. Neglect happens slowly over time not usually in one significant event. The more I learn the more scared I get for the children. But it did mean no one had to fix the phone system because of all the calls. To take the load off DoCS the Woods Report suggests NGO’s step forward, I believe this is the wrong direction. 350.

as no more follows i presume the 4 post limit kicked in, meaning you cant post till after 7;59...[ok lets call it 8 oclock]..lol

its good to see you getting practrical..[typical bloody woman...lol]we should only change that we can change..[and you are better a mother than a lawyer

[in aborigonal society/law is mens-buisness[..its not your failing jewel,..its us men not doing our job

but us men being men are seeing different sides..of the same problem[while you are getting on with the practabilities/we males simply lack]..i know kevin is listening..[but also know he has further plans..[as malcontent turnbull into votes..decries]

anyhow i see the wisdom of you returning to your self-presumed duty[that of giving love to those fated to think it a rarety]..i..as previously revealed have met many who survived the abuses of state[and person-hoodlums]..maybe its even an obscure form of karma..[a just god wouldnt let vile be done upon innocents]

but there i go trying to rationalise out the why of the matter[al i know is as i grow up i see wisdom in things i previously thought grieviously wrong...[maybe i judge in haste,and maybe in places expand beyond that i know,..but the core and gist of it lies between what peter put and i put,..but its nothing any one of us aLONE can change

meanwhile there are broken-children you need to heal..[as fairly broken myself i can only but say thanks for you doing the little your allowed to do]

[one day our leaders will wake up to the vile/they/we allowed to be done]..but it starts and ends in this realm..[we just need to get through the vile here with the least damage to others..and ourselves] that we are able to achieve

there is good and vile in each of us..[let those without sin not cast the first stones]..[indeed any stones]..in the end what matters is the much better we each did..with the little/bits we are each given.

[between all of us..we know a fraction of what god knows]..both sides of every story...we are but bit acters in a much bigger picture

“as no more follows i presume the 4 post limit kicked in, meaning you cant post till after 7;59...[ok lets call it 8 oclock]..lol”

A long time ago when I had my Bulletin Board System I would have huge arguments with other SysOps (Grahams) about restricting their Users or their posts. They always came back with the “this is my place”. I personally would never tell a guest to sit down and shut up and if they do want to talk it better be short. Now abusive guests; probably show them the door.

I also had to fight to not use an alias which some insisted on hence Jewely for Julie. Terrible having a common name.

“its good to see you getting practrical..[typical bloody woman...lol]we should only change that we can change..[and you are better a mother than a lawyer”

Balancing my hurt without creating further hurt even if it isn’t me inflicting it I am being punished and so the children are included. I misspoke about having nothing to lose in an early post; I am losing my ability to do good/well by continuing this fight for an already damaged child I cannot see or help now while the punishment includes those around me.

“[in aborigonal society/law is mens-buisness[..its not your failing jewel,..its us men not doing our job”

Oh, you don’t learn much about Aboriginals here, I think I learnt more about the people while still in NZ.

“but us men being men are seeing different sides..of the same problem[while you are getting on with the practabilities/we males simply lack]..i know kevin is listening..[but also know he has further plans..[as malcontent turnbull into votes..decries]”

“turnbull”? I don’t understand.

“thought grievously wrong...[maybe i judge in haste,and maybe in places expand beyond that i know,..but the core and gist of it lies between what peter put and i put,..but its nothing any one of us aLONE can change”

You and Peter, same same and very different. I visualize you both on either side of a set of scales. Someone suggested you were religious trains on different tracks. This appeals. 350.

some more 'mens buisness' revealed
http://www.ukcolumn.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ukcolumn_may09_web.pdf
its 2 meg[or gig]..its the article alan watts referes to in todays show
the show should appear here tomorrow
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/radio/Alan_Watt_CTTM_Live_on_RBN.html

anyhow they both backup the child abuse thing[and then some extra]
of course you may not want to know[and thats fine]i put them up more to validate some of what i previously said[but some may need more proof]

anyhow im currently listening to the rep broadcast[reluctantly]
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?cmd=archives
learning too much as usual, wishing we could get past the problem into the cure[but we men will spend lifetimes debaiting who has the correct cure]

i tend to think the sickoes are simply replaying what was done to them,..but the sickness has to stop somewhere.. when are woman/children going to lead in this?..should they..certainly time has revealed men wont.

“meanwhile there are broken-children you need to heal..[as fairly broken myself i can only but say thanks for you doing the little your allowed to do]”

This does not simply slide by. I appreciate your thanks, if there was room I could tell amazing stories about little children and how quickly they progress. But this is not the place I think. I never see any of them again 106 to date and I know nothing, might be better this way.

I see being on here for me to learn and others show how much they know. Some find a lot of pleasure in trying to hurt, they hide behind the fact that they can’t be sure so continue. But those can be found on any site.

Broken OUG? Will you explain? Maybe not the place, if ever needed I am jaruocco @bigpond.com - caseworkers already know I am online, I have been caught and questioned, complicated explanation wont fit within word limit which I reach regularly. Guilty/female.

“[we just need to get through the vile here with the least damage to others..and ourselves] that we are able to achieve”

This requires faith. I wasn’t raised in faith. I looked at all of them; all with One God are similar to my mind. The differences have astounding affects when you compare with no belief in any.

“… cast the first stones]..[indeed any stones]..in the end what matters is the much better we each did..with the little/bits we are each given”.

Haha… OLO is a glass house. I think this lead me here, I need to give myself more to do good. I am completely horrified at myself for the things I didn’t learn earlier. I could have done much better.

“[between all of us..we know a fraction of what god knows]..both sides of every story...we are but bit actors in a much bigger picture”

I just need a fraction of what you know and a fraction from Peter and anyone else that allows me to ask all my stupid questions of. You really helped me with the “refuse to understand”. 350.