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"here try reading this
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/newviews/gonewest1a.html"

That was weird. But if we say it is all true, what I didn’t come across was the point. I mean what is the point in ALL of it? Why would this earth (or hell) be created in the first place?

Why make humans, then make them suffer then make them spend eternities being punished for what they didn’t learn and then to get to what… a brighter light or eventually the brightest light? And it can go in circles like we can be here, go down, be cleansed, come back… ad infinitum.

Why?
Posted by Jewely, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 8:50:31 PM
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the why..question...isnt in any book

first..know god is beyond sex...but..i think a woman can understand the story better...see/that god is life..[long before the big-bang was..she was...so..anyhow..she said;..let there be light..[and there was light]

in time all the things went down..[creation/making animals/plants etc]well..anyhow..ever..wanted an equal..[that could share this amasing thing she created]..so just as with the beasts/she created adam..[inteligent.etc..but pure man..[xy chromopsones and all]

some say the angels witnessed this creation..of man from clay..[and god breathed her animus..[life]..into the goyam to give him life]..[and god was pleased rather than amased]..and commanded her angels to bow before this clay-man..[for he had freewill]..the angels/wished no freewill

but..one angel refused to bow..before this creation..[saying he was made from mud..[you made us from fire,..i refuse to bow down to an image..[anyhow more out of loyalty to god/he refused to bow down..[and was cast into the soul/body of a serphant]..swearing he would test this..'man'

anyhow/adam wanted..[in time]..what the beasts have..[a mate]..god wasnt enough for this..free man/spirit..[so god created a clone from adams rib..[throwing away the troublesome..'Y'..chromosone..[doubling up on the x]..thus was made..''xx'..eve]

anyhow god was a bit peeved..[but gave adam..as the beasts have..[today we know eve is a clone..,that adam and eve are..legally..brother/sister..[having essentially the same genes..[and creator]

anyhow..you know about the..'fruit'..thing..[but what is important about that is..the lawyer/..sorry serphant..did ask eve;..did god forbid..[well as we know god didnt..[god told adam..[adam never told eve]

anyhow the serphant[most wise]..never explained it,..lol

but/..by knowing the rules..we know adam as husband..can forgive a wife a folishness..[as father..he can forgive eve his daughter..[and as brother/clone..he could have forgiven his sister]..yet never has..

as to why..god knows what goes arround/comes arround..[AND IF WERE EVER GOING TO LIVE UP..TO BEING GODS EQUAL..[WE NEED TO KNOW what god knows,..and yet..retain the love she holds for us all..[guilt is a powerfull tool to help..'man'..try 2b better..to be good]

ok i didnt reply..why..[but]..if were good..maybe one day/we can ask her?..or maybe we can figure it all out..[that we do/did to the least we did to god]..
i guess she is human after-all...lol
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 10:39:01 PM
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jewel<<..what is/the point/in ALL of it?>>first there really dosnt need to be any..'point',..god does/what god does..[some say we are only gods dream..[yet]..we..feel more than a dream..but..so real are gods dreams/..we become real..ok that didnt reply,,lets try/the next quote

<<Why would this earth..(or hell)..be created in the first place?>>ok try this,..logus..[logic]/god is...she..[logus/logic..thinks]..in the darknes...[i think/i am]..so her awarness/begins with logic..seeking to know just what..i am is being.

so i am thinks/what is this darkness..[and says let there be light], then in the light,..learns there is liquid/firmament,..thinks some more and the firmament..becomes dust,..thinks more and plants/life begins

[each developing like building-blocks..each more amasing/than the next..each..with a living part of her inside them,..in time she gets lonely..makes company,/in time angels reject god..[reject the light,..the dark/hells form,..to let them/feel-like..they escape from her radiance

life dies and goes to the heavens or hells..[some life has evolved capable of operating in a higher evolved form,..some near to adams form,..in time adam is ..'borne'#..and dies,..after him others born/die

some like cain/feel really sorry about killing his brother..[asks god can i have another shot at it lord,..he gets another go..[this time maybe getting abused,/instead of abusing..[god is fair]..next time cain dies/he moves up into the higher evolution

[a star/lights up the heavens]..cain in his higher incarnation..has his own let there be light moment..[has his own firment from the waters moment]..channeling gods light..he now appears to shed his own light/upon his own earth like planetoid

<<Why make humans,..then make them suffer then make them spend eternities being punished for what they didn’t learn>>..we are here learning bit by bit..what god learned..[recall jesus saying that ye see me do ye will do GREATER?

<<and then to get to what… a brighter light or eventually the brightest light?>>..ha ha..[see your getting the picture...lol..[your star is starting to light up a bit/allready...lol

<<And it can go in circles like we can be here,..go down,..be cleansed,come back… ad infinitum.>>..you nailed it..[as long as it takes we are et-earn-al..[just like mum..

<<Why?>>..mums spirit..is sustaining us to live..[arnt mums great?
forgive me father if i miss-lead...lol...why not?[what else you going to do for eternity?]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 1:58:54 AM
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OUG, is this like a mix of religions?

I am going to struggle to find the why, why down then up then further up then maybe down again.

Is there any other way or is that when we return quickly and start again? The why in the suffering.

This what I can't quite get about faith, that it is faith. I can understand all the concepts even if I question the purpose. But I find it impossible to stop questioning them.

But I'm going to go to bed now and try and work out some answers which probably means I will end with even more questions.

You poor thing, you are being stalked with questions.
Posted by Jewely, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 11:06:10 PM
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jewelry<<..a mix of religions?>>..i..'knew'..there could/be no god..for most of my life...[for the same reasons others..'know',..the old..how can a good loving god..let the vile go on..excuse...

anyhow..in time i realised science..is a huge deceptive/adgenda..[i was so into the evolution/thing..[but the more i learned about it/the more flaws revealed themselves]

anyhow..there was an amasing..[to me]..series of coincidences..[that proved god is real,..so i set out to know/all i could from the god writings..even then/amasing things continued to happen..[like swedenberg..i came across when a magazine fell in front of me in my own libery..[i didnt even know i owned it]

i spent time with aborigonals,buddists,marybakers-crowd[swedenborgs mob,visited mosques,churches,chapples,allways talking about god and his creation,..much happend via syncronicity,web searching,and talking..

in the end/i developed my own joinder..[that i could live with,..that fits in with what experiences i had with god/in live time..it's still refining..[man/isnt meant to know-it-all..]

<<..why down then up then further up/maybe down again>>..the vast majority dont even realise they crossed over,..its reported to be much like slipping out of a wet glove...animal/spiritually evolved just following their nature

<<Is there any other way..return quickly and start again?>>the reincarnation thing is lengthy..[it means cutting off your whole life[but if you recall the automatic writing..[demons take contol of weak minds..[especially drunks/drug affected..[and many medications[like prozac]..possesion

<< The why in the suffering.>>unsure if your a mum...[but if so the pain is soon forgotten]..we have eternity,..of pleasure ahead..[ok most]..its all the better knowing that vile NEVER will occure EVERAGAIN..whilst[in heaven]..but it can become numbing..[painlesness]

but even so they see the suffering..[and many return here specificlly to help end it..[but soon get caught up in the 'life'/freewill/experience..[clean forgetting why we came in the first place]..to help

<<impossible to stop questioning>>...your going to love it when you link up direct to the living god..answering your questions as you ask them..[live time all the time]

<<you are being stalked with questions>>...i stopped asking questions a long time ago..[i love questions..[it makes me think..and..[vet out the good responses/from the deceptions]..

one question has so many answers..both good/bad,..true AND faulse..we reveal much of our inner..by which we accept as true
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 21 May 2009 12:12:08 AM
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anyhow today its back to the matters of the flesh, alex today[3rd hour is exposing the pedophile scam]..you click on the listen to broadcast link..the link is where i posted it previously

or if you miss it its in the archive link i posted later[it seems the reason you chose to incarnate]

i would advise kevin by letter on behalf of the 106..[120?]..you were given DUTY of care for..

[you might mention additionally your concern comes from broadcasts like alex as well as todays news from ireland, google irish catholic church pediphilia[re the acts of pedophilia by the priests]as well as the list of pedophiles being supresssed[by some person/group right here,..kevin would know what list you speak of

anyhow post off the letter, and dont worry about the other stuff
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 21 May 2009 8:49:26 AM
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