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jewel try
http://www.infowars.com/stream.pls
tomorrow here
http://www.infowars.com/audio/200905/200905.html

The Constitution is a Trust Indenture
extracted from http://www.worldfreemansociety.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1719

The UNITED STATES,australia/new-zealand,canada[even..UK/EU are..legally..corporation,s..enslaving their populations by contacting us UNDER Codes(such as the U.S. Code),..corperate Rules,..Regulations, acts etc.[that were designed to regulate govt and trade..[but have evolved into the means to tax people and regulate away our freedoms]

The UNITED KINGDOM(Corp.)was lawfully created by the United Kingdom law assosiation,for carrying out its commercial activities,and the UNITED STATES(Corp.)was lawfully created by the United States of America[uk/lawyer franchise]for its commercial activities.etc

It is voluntary..for us to operate..(in commerce)..with these corporations,..but if we are assuming the role of a..'Citizen'..(a created legal-fiction persona[person]/fiction,standing under the society's corperation juristiction),..that UNDER that role..(by us playing UNDER it)..we are constrained to follow the Statutory Acts and Bills...that apply to the entity and role,..and thus oblige us to do contractual/commerce with the corporations created there-under...and anything we sign creates that contracted juristiction

The Constitution is a'Trust'-document..created for the People...by the UK/lawyer's

The Trustors were the People,..the Trust is the incorperated country..the Beneficiary is the Posterity/future...The Trustees are..all those who work for the state..by assuming a role/rank/title[power]..under it's authorities,..such as..PM,'President',minester,'Citizen',judge,public-servant..etc.

The Trust stands-under..no other law..though it does reference..the Law of other Nations,and thus under/stands to treaty-law.

Two good articles on the United-States position...
Political Union or Political Chaos?..by Ed Wahler,2006.
http://www.usofavus.com/political-union-or-chaos.htm
On State-Citizenship by T. Collins, 1994.
http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/On_State_Citizenship.html

And extra reading and discussion for clarification...
Contracts,Trusts and the Corporation Sole
http://teamlawproductions.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24
Citizen vs. citizen..The defined entity as a proper noun vs. the common word.
http://teamlawproductions.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=689

Corporate U.S.
http://teamlawproductions.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=695
Sovereign,/Person,/and Relationship to SSA (Corp. U.S.)
http://teamlawproductions.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=734
Corporatism Immunity
http://teamlawproductions.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=726

Is the U.S. a corporation?
http://www.reddit.com/r/CommonLaw/comments/79ra9/is_the_us_a_corporation/
Rulings on the sovereignty of the People...
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/corporate_u_s/news.php?q=1239325538

the'Citizen'/slave/status..is a creation of the constituted/States and thus a legal-fiction under their jurisdictions..via..(laws/codes/rules/regulations/orders etc.)..as issued by the courts/govts of the state
Posted by one under god, Friday, 15 May 2009 8:51:52 PM
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"the'Citizen'/slave/status..is a creation of the constituted/States and thus a legal-fiction under their jurisdictions..via..(laws/codes/rules/regulations/orders etc.)..as issued by the courts/govts of the state"

OUG HELP. Damn your links.

“Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance is a psychological phenomenon first identified by Leon Festinger. It occurs when there is a discrepancy between what a person believes, knows and values, and persuasive information that calls these beliefs into question. The discrepancy causes psychological discomfort, and the mind adjusts to reduce the discrepancy. In ethics, cognitive dissonance is important in its ability to alter values, such as when an admired celebrity embraces behavior that his or her admirers deplore.”

“The Court will not pass upon the constitutionality of a statute at the instance of one who has availed himself of its benefits”.

This is America, has 20 times the populations of Oz? They don’t have enough smart ones to complain?

My thoughts; foster children. Government pay to have kids taken, they fund Ngo’s through DoCS. All money flows back because NGO’s, their caregivers, they spend it.

The USA (United States of Australia) is the same as the USA (United States of America).

“Well, when you decided that you needed a Social Security number, you also agreed to become a U.S. citizen and accept what the legal experts call compelled benefits. Herein lies the "real beauty" of the system developed to make you into something you never though possible: a person living in voluntary servitude. Okay, that cognitive dissonance thing just kicked in again.”

I carry on, I am not enjoying knowing these things.

In this fight for little Aussies, I am not a Citizen. I can’t even work out the centerlink site about what I need to do to become one. I applied, they accepted my application, I paid money, went to the office when they wrote me an invite a year ago then they told me I didn’t have “residency”. What is residency? I bought one, a house. I live here. I raise small Australians.

I forgot about it. Now I think I need it. Was a development today with DoCS.. 350 words.
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 15 May 2009 10:07:31 PM
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Jewely. UOG is one of a group of people who have perceived a reality, but do not understand why it has come about. The links he describes are in fact a reaction to the undermining in the USA of its Constitution. The USA is still basically sound as any Grisham novel will attest if read and understood, but in Australia they are fiction, because we have moved towards the communist governmental model. I can understand your confusion.

There is a legal rule called KISS. Keep it simple stupid, the reason for it being that the average IQ is 100, range 95-105, and that is the IQ of an average juryman. The Australians in New South Wales before 1970, had laws allowing a special jury, consisting of successful businessmen and farmers, for larger property cases, and these were of a higher than average IQ. The IQ of an average lawyer, and therefore a Judge is said to be 115, which is all you really need to get a law degree these days.

It is probably not necessary for Kevin to see all the file. He should get an idea, of what is going on from the disciplined posts of 350 words, you have been trained by the OLO computer to write. There used to be a maxim of law, There is no wrong without a remedy. This is now there is no remedy for any wrong. What you need to tell KR is that this is so, and the reason why this is so, is that the Federal Court of Australia is dysfunctional because of two illegal pieces of legislation, one made in Parliament and the other outside Parliament.

The in Parliament one is S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 which allows a Judge to sit without a jury, and makes him a virtual Old Testament King. The second is the Rule of Court made by these de-facto Kings, in conclave, ( just like a college of Cardinals) Order 46 Rule 7A Federal Court Rules, which makes it an exclusive club, so they don’t work too hard.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 16 May 2009 9:34:08 AM
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It has become apparent that a certain woman was a New Zealander, and wants to become a citizen of Australia. Under the Constitution Kiwi’s have a special place, because they may not vote, but have free and unfettered access to Australia, because NZ was included in the Colonies who could become a State of Australia in the Commonwealth. Just try again, because unless you are a crim, the granting of citizenship is automatic.

You see S 8 of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 says: Application of the Colonial Boundaries Act: after the passing of this Act, the Colonial Boundaries Act 1895, shall not apply to any colony which becomes a State of the Commonwealth; but the Commonwealth shall be taken to be a self-governing colony for the purpose of that Act. New Zealand and Australia have a unique status, legally joined at the hip. Hence ANZAC. Australian and New Zealand Army Corp.

You should be asserting you are a subject of the Queen. Citizens are slaves to a State, free men are subjects of Almighty God subject to allegiance to his sworn representative Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second. Because you are a subject, you have or had great rights, but the lawyers have gradually been reducing you to slavery. As a slave, unless you buy a licence to drive from the slave master, you cannot drive, under threat of arrest. S 92 Constitution should exempt you, but slavery is a business, and the keepers are Police.

This is causing schizophrenia in Magistrates. They know they are bound by S 5 Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900, and S 92 Constitution makes all travel in Australia free, and they know s 109 Constitution obliges them to apply an exemption to any interstate journey, and they know from law school, that the Queen is a Commonwealth authority who owns all freehold land, sold by the States since 1900, that travel in Australia between private lands should be totally free of licence fees. So to avoid going mad, they are simply convicting people driving without licences and shredding the court file
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 16 May 2009 10:20:28 AM
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Don’t be disheartened. When you write to a politician, they know if one writes, there are a thousand feel the same way but have not put pen to paper. Here we should all get behind Jewely who has seen a real abuse of power, and support her in her quest for justice for helpless kids.

UOG is right about slavery. In both Islam, Old Testament Law, and communism, slavery is the norm. There are slaves and slave owners, and the Roman Catholic Church was the biggest slave owner of them all, enslaving through its Spanish and Portugese Colonists vast numbers of what they called pagans. The Islamic Moors from Northern Africa and Spain conducted raiding parties into Ireland, and took slaves to power their ships. The States of Australia have enslaved their populations, and use them as a resource, because every State has abolished its Supreme Court in fact if not name.

The current de-facto slave owners are all lawyers. This small group of oppressive individuals, have invaded the parliaments, and while there, in conflict of interest with their true responsibilities, passed laws immensely favourable to making them the ruling class. The two posted in my previous post are the most oppressive, but there are plenty more. Fix those two, though, and there are plenty of people willing and able to fix the rest.

We are still 65% Christian in Australia, and heirs to a Christian tradition opposed to slavery. Slavery could not continue in England after 1215 when jury trials became the standard method of trial. It has been reintroduced into Australia since 1970, when lawyers persuaded Parliaments everywhere to give them absolute power. This is totally un-constitutional, illegal and corrupt, but the lawyers and Judges and Magistrates control the Police and the guns.

Because the lawyers have a cartel, if you want justice you must become a debt slave. They serve until you run out of money, and then they give you to the Social Security, to support
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 16 May 2009 10:23:18 AM
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i understand you are confused..[i..wish it was as simple[as peter puts i..[but having had the''benifits'..lol..of 5 trials[with a jury.]...[juries/are not the answer]

jewries are selected by the marshal..[who is..unbound in the limits he can undertake to select/test/sort them..[they..specificlly select those who will be complicit..[or follow the crowd]..as the joe-trial proved..[the jury foreman is usually a plant..[add in the judge will issue his god-like instructions..to disregard this/that proof,..and have his final say,..simply returning juries will change nothing

peter is right..[in keeping it simple]..but..[not simplistic]..the law/system changed well before 1976...understand that it was changed irrevocably at the same time the fed got privatised..[in the 30's]see that income tax changed everything when the bankers took over the fed

under common law[and magna-carta]..we have a right to jury trial[but as i have been told in court magna-carta has nothing to do with the civil law of contract..[our current legal system

see under magna-carta you need testimony from two who personally witnessed an injury..to testify that you caused injury..[under magna-carta you CANNOT testify against yourself]..yet the current suss-tem thrives on self-incrimination,..not permitted under common/law[that we dont have either]

know that jury has the right..[and duty]..to judge not only the crime[but the law]..but ..we get our law..from tv sit-coms[and judge/judy[as a deliberated policy]..under this current adversarial/system the real courts..are nothing like the movies

for egsample the prostituter opens..and has last say..[then the judge]in the movies the defendant does..[but..not in reality]..it may not be seem relitive..that australia wasnt created by the australia/act[nor..the constitution/that created the''commonwealth of australia'']..but its fact..peter must know

the way things are are really closer to usa than peter would be able to realise..[but we have each had our different paths..[australia is an incorperation..[registered in london]

we do have the civil/law of contract..in courts under the judge who has the extreem authority..granted to the ships/captain the law of the seas,,.under maritime tirade laws..allowing..[summery judgment]

i would love that it is as simple[as peter says]..i really would..but sadly know it isnt..we can agree to disagree..i only write that as i think i know it to be..[as does peter]
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 16 May 2009 2:08:33 PM
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