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Heads of cororations are simply employees just like any other employee. They DO NOT EMPLOY PEOPLE, the corporation does.

These structures are in place as many a company head has been screwed over the years and stripped of their assetts.

The real fools in this case are the work safety authority and their lawyers, they should have known the laws better and now face the consequences.

Just remember, employees can't be held liable for breaching any company laws, appart from theft and, all that can be done in the case of a serious breach is that they can be terminated from their employment. They are not accountable, so why should the bosses be personally accountable.

If these laws are ever changed and directors are held personally liable then you can kiss your job goodby.

You can't have your cake and eat it I'm afraid.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 14 May 2009 6:07:08 AM
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re-the-club[of rome]..how come a bouncer that bashes the brains out of a patron can be held to account,..but the boss sending his worker into danger cant..[and infact as the gunns case proves will get a right toi sue govt for compensation[for the stress of failing to account?]

some reasons bosses get to vote for their tax own free bonus..or set the contracted rate of the..pay tax as you earn..worker serfs?

how is this farce of 67 as a returement age..[wether your a desk jockey getting papor cuts..or a blue collar falling of a scaffold whilst lugging bricks..[or a miner mining asbestos..[or a spray painter getting pluricy..or a truckie driving 18 hours a day[who will all be dying well before pension age,65..[let alone 67]

yet forced to compulsory supper con-tribut-ions for those white collors living long enough to retire, lording it over the serfs who get minumum medical and dental[whilst the boss gets firsat class as a work condition

the worker will get to pay feul excise on top of getting to work[while his master..[better]gets a free car and tax free fuel and a nice share deal..[and a seat on the board]..even legal representation and govt protections tax cuts and subsidies

how hard first removed death duties,then privatised the public owned utilities ,then put the full tax burden on the poor pay as they earn, by fuel taxes,.gst,..smokers tax, hundreds of state taxes[rego, fees and charges..[now krudd with his alcopops[yet not wine]
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 14 May 2009 7:56:43 AM
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So corporations have to follow the law but they are taken to court as the corporation and not the individual that did something wrong?

What would happen in work places like Barnardos, Life Without Barriers, Benevolent Society, Red Cross where their actual product is people?

I suspect these NGO’s with their bases of foster parents that DoCS fund are going to become, or have already, become the” intensive farms” for children. No one polices them and no caseworker is held accountable if a child is damaged.

Below is the body of a letter I received two days ago. Does this mean that the only office the public perceive as where to complain on behalf of children in care hand back your complaint to who you complained to? Then they send the people you complained about to your house?

I think I really need to know how to respond to this and understand what I (or anyone could) can do next.

Peter does that Act matter where children are concerned?

From NSW Ombudsman:

Complaint concerning Department of Community Services (DoCS).

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. Whilst we are making our own inquiries in regard to the manner in which the transition planning was undertaken, I have requested that the department meet with you to explain their actions in regard to your complaint.

In addition, I have asked the department to report back to me with regard to the outcome of the meeting, at which time this matter will be formally closed at our Office.

As such, I will not be taking any further action on your complaint at this stage, unless you are dissatisfied with the local resolution process.
Posted by Jewely, Thursday, 14 May 2009 8:20:36 AM
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Jewely, without even needing to know the exact nature of the complaint, I'd say they have you over a barrel. Docs are almost a law unto themselves, so you will just have to grit your teeth and work your way through the system. The question you need to ask yourself would appear to be.."Will/can I achieve a meaningful outcome"? If not, which is likely with Docs, why bust a gut and put yourself at risk of retaliation?
Docs are also notorious for THAT!
"Ya gotta know when to fold 'em......"
Posted by Maximillion, Thursday, 14 May 2009 8:30:53 AM
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I don’t want to bore you with the details, but Sharon Burrow, Greg Combet, and the rest of the ACTU lawyers, when they campaigned for Your Rights at Work, and were bitterly complaining about the way that a worker could lose his house with a $100,000 fine as they wanted to levy in Western Australia on workers at the Mandurup Railway, probably because they are trained at a University, have not worked out why the government could not do this.

There are two documents which make this legislation illegal, and they are the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 with the Constitution, and the Holy Bible which is incorporated into the Constitution in Ch III Constitution. Maximilion in Darwin, Romany in China, and all the regular posters, from all over Australia ought to realize that because we have a National Queen, Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second we only have one Sovereign, and thats Her. At this reference from a website I have found, http://www.community-law.info/?page_id=466 is an extract from Halsbury’s Laws of England, and it is clear to all Christians, the 65% of us with a few odds sods and bods, who approve of Kevin Rudd being a Christian, and have made his personal popularity the same as the percentage of Christians who claim Christianity in Australia.

What is clear is that Royal means as representative of Almighty God. God owns everything. Because he loves us, He has allowed the Queen, or King since 1290, to grant us the use of the land in trust, for our descendants. Almighty God provided the rules of engagement, in the New Testament and the Constitution made it law. In 1995, the Parliament of the Commonwealth made it an offence against humanity for Judges and Magistrates to sit without juries and exercise the functions of a slave master over us. I am talking about the Criminal Code Act 1995 ( Cth) . In it failure to apply the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights carries 17 years imprisonment. S 268:12. Tell KR on his website, you want your courts back from the lawyers
Posted by Peter the Believer, Thursday, 14 May 2009 8:38:50 AM
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jewelry<<Complaint concerning Department of Community Services (DoCS).

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.>>

firstly it would be helpfull to know what the complaint SPECIFICLLY says

<<Whilst we are making our own inquirie/in regard to the manner/in which..the transition planning..was undertaken,>>meaning you will be able to get the answers..[if you ask the right questions..[i would take a freedom of info request form with you to present to the beuro-roc-rat in case he stymies

<<I have requested..that the department[rep]..meet with you..to explain..their..actions in regard to..your complaint.>>he is here narrowing the topic..to your specific complaint..[thus the need to know WHAT YOU COMPLAINED..[specificly]about who

<<In addition,I have asked the department..to report back..to me..with regard to..the outcome..of'the'meeting,>>this allows you further powers to acces further info..[get info in writing..[or a copy of the report's[via further freedom of info request]in a few days

<<at which time..this matter will be formally closed..at our Office.>>means he is out of it..after that..[you then have the other avenues of appeal..[to atourney general[courts,or gov general]and ombudsman

<<As such,I will not be taking any further action..on your complaint at this stage>>,..AT this stage..IE ..., unless you are dissatisfied with the..'local'..resolution process.

I WOULD RECORD THE RESOLUTION PROCESS[on one of them pen-type[or watch type recorder,..there is no need to inform them..[unless they inform you,..and they will be recording it]..ask for a written transcript,..we can break down at the wff forum[or here]

i would put to them the issues i raised previously..[asking them if true..[or how you could veryify it faulse,and how they are so sure one way or the other

[you been given one shot to defend the vile systematic abuse done to children,..remember an innocent heart can do ANYTHING]..

there is nothing as powerfull as a woman defending the defensless[not yelling..,not screaming..just asking please explain

the resolution process IS NOT OVER..till your last question gets its reply..[make point by point notes,..ask for a further meeting,..be firm..the kids need you..study up on this..[do the research]..this is[or may be]the very reason you were born...please explain
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 14 May 2009 9:49:46 AM
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