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currently.[4..th/hour]..alex is talking about how,child protective services franchise..is about getting bonus[from govt]..you effectivly are being used to create a clean title to the child they stole

[think of it like washing/money through a legitimate/buisness]they are with you till the state has a clean title..[right to the child]then they are on-sold to those needing kids..[and wanting to pay for them]..anyhow listen to info-wars rebroadcast of it again in a few more hours http://www.infowars.com/

Every judge and lawyer knows this....they just want to know..if your prepared to back up your actions with faith...people are confused..as to why in the world the judge found the defendant guilty when there was no evidence for the plaintiff in the case.

she/he found the defendant guilty because we allowed and agreed by saying mute..[saying nothing]...silence signifies agreement

everybody in prison is there because they volunteered.....of their own free-will to be judged,..responded to the name called creating a joinder of the body to the name,..accepted being called the defendant or the accused,accepted the court calling them mr..[a person]ie a corperate/fiction..indicating social lower standing before the court..'higher'..standing..[and rebutted nothing]..lol

If you volunteered,you surrendered your standing,you contracted into service..[mr is a military rank]....that mean's you created a verble contract..Then....have become subject.[as subject,..you become subject to contract law]..[subject to the act]..subject to loosing your kids

WHAT'S THAT GOT TO DO WITH LAW?

1.law of equal's[laws of victims,.and..laws that create an obligation[under contract law you are the obligated one..[it is put on you to supply the remedy[the repaynment of an advantage]..had you not accepted the advantage,..you could have no obligation..[thus no con-tract

know that all men are created equal

2.All are equal under the Law(but god speaking to his people frightend them..[so they sought an intermediator]..a..judge

read how it went down

basis of law is gods exodus..20;1-17 this frightend the people..[ex 20;18-20..so men made mosus judge/jury[jewry]..built an alter and created man..[mosaic law](Exodus 21-23]

mosus[a man in a dress]built the court..[leviticuss..24;1-8 and at..'9'..created the satutes[10-23]advising the specific clauses..25;18-55...at 26 god advises the land be remain unbound,..mentioning the binding clauses..[that were in time broken]and mentioning their remedy,..in 27 are laid out the penalties[equity]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 15 May 2009 10:19:13 AM
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there have been further public readings verifying the law at vairious times and places..Lev...24:17-21;..Deut...1:17,19:21;..Matt.,22:36-40;..Luke10:17;..Col.3:25.

the laws are further clarified by Legal-maxims,wrote by man:"No one is above the/law.";"Commerce,by the law of nations,ought to be common and not to be converted into a monopoly and the private gain of a few.").

3.In Commerce truth is sovereign..(Exodus 20:16;..Ps.117:2;..Matt.6:33,..John 8:32;..II Cor.13:8.
Legal maxim:.."To lie is to go against the mind."

4.Truth is expressed by means of an affidavit(Lev.5:4-5;..Lev.6:3-5;..Lev 19:11-13;..Num.30:2;..Matt.5:33;..James 5:12).

5.An unrebutted affidavit stands as the truth in Commerce(1 Pet. 1:25;..Heb.6:13-15...Legal maxim:"He who does not deny,..admits.").

6.An unrebutted affidavit..[signed contract becomes the judgment in Commerce(Heb. 6:16-17...Any proceeding in a court,tribunal or arbitration forum consists of a contest,or"duel,"of commercial affidavits wherein the points ..remaining unrebutted in the end..stand as the truth and the matters to which the judgment of the law is applied.).

7.A matter must be expressed to be resolved(Heb...4:16;..Phil.4:6;..Eph.6:19-21.
Legal maxim:"He who fails to assert his rights has none.").

8.He who leaves the field of battle first loses by default(Book of Job;..Matt.10:22...Legal maxim:"He who does not repel a wrong when he can,occasions it.").

9.Sacrifice is the measure of credibility..(One who is not damaged,put at risk,..or willing to swear an oath that he consents to claim against his commercial liability in the event that any of his statements or actions is groundless or unlawful,..has no basis to assert claims or charges and forfeits all credibility and right to claim authority.)..(Acts 7,life/death of Stephen,

maxim:"He who bears the burden ought also to derive the benefit.").

10.A lien or claim can be satisfied only through rebuttal by Counter-affidavit point-for-point,resolution by/jury,or payment(Gen. 2-3; Matt.4;..Revelation...Legal/maxim:"If the plaintiff does not prove his case,the defendant is absolved.").

1.A workman is worthy of his hire(Exodus20:15;..Lev.19:13;..Matt.10:10;..Luke10:7;II

Then and only then will they leave you alone.Tim.2:6.
Legal maxim:"It is against equity for freemen
not to have the free disposal of their own property.").

consider where you or your friends have been lead....On the subject of courts and the prospect that:“He who does not deny….admits”

“They are trying to use contract law....”

Now let’s get back to this in a court/scenario….
Posted by one under god, Friday, 15 May 2009 10:30:13 AM
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“if the defendant does not rebut..the unproved/assumptions and presumptions.”..Then,..according to the laws of procedure...in an equity court..their/failure to rebut them….must mean that THEY MUST BE..assumed..to be TRUE!!

BECAUSE YOU/they/we..DIDN'T REBUT THEM!!..because/under the terms of contract law,..you,..have[silently]accepted the proposition,..and not rebutted a lie...You didn't/rebut....which is acceptance...so..they are presumed true

when you have offer..and..acceptance...that's a contract..[thats how they take kids from their parents]..lol..sign here...lol,..,BUT..that supersedes any provisions required by formal law and procedure....Because..the parties are..in agreement!!

they..agree..to waive remedies..and provisions of law..anytime..,yet no one tells em


people are confused..as to why the judge found'the defendant'guilty..when there was no evidence..from the plaintiff..[in the hearing..

JUDGE found the defendant guilty..because he/she allowed and agreed..that he should be found guilty!!.....you/they volunteered into CON-tract!...THEN SIGNED IT!..;lol..creating a CONTRACT/advidavit..[that is then held as proof]..lol

everybody in prison/is there because they volunteered.....of their own free will to be judged..you volunteered....you created a contract/advidavit.

there was no evidence..presented..to rebut the presumptions....If the defense didn't rebut the presumptions.....did the plaintiff have a duty..to bring evidence into the case?..OF COURSE NOT!!..Because,they only have to bring evidence..if,..the defendant rebuts the presumptions...and..they/defendants lost their standing..[lawyer's are so clever...lol]

Okay?..here is what's going through the judges mind....he's going…“okay,..there were charges/of wrong-doing...there was no evidence by the state,..but the defendant’s didn’t rebut any of the charges/...because they didn't..rebut the charges....I,as the judge must weigh..are the charges true..[as far as this case is concerned]...or are the charges wrong?...as far as this case is concerned.”

It has to do with/what’s..the intent of the parties here...if there's no evidence...we can't rule on evidence...so it's not a law case...thus/It's a case in equity....we want to know what the intent of the parties are....because the rebuttal never gets to the real facts....

There's no facts before the court..thus..there's no evidence before the court...who/just want to know how everybody feels about it.....do they want to be found guilty or not?..And if they want to be found guilty...then we will go ahead and because we have their..[SILENT}agreement..SO..we'll find them guilty!

The judge sit's back and says,“well look...the charges,..even though their not proved….must be true.”...guilty
Posted by one under god, Friday, 15 May 2009 12:06:15 PM
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This is important isn’t it Peter; This having or not having a Jury sitting in court thing. I have missed Jury duty a few times by leaving a country, moving to a different island etc. But I can’t imagine that I will be sitting with my peers.

I mean seriously, if you got in trouble you wouldn’t want me sitting in a jury trying to wrap my head around different points of law to judge you on? I wouldn’t mind anyone here sitting on a jury judging me but I wouldn’t want the dude that lives on the corner of my street doing it. (Apologies if you are online here you mental case, fix your damn gate).

I think, I did consider this for awhile, there should be professional jurors… like 12real judges. People hired to sit that know a bit about crime, the law, how witnesses can see things distorted during a crime. Corporate law should have a 12 person team that understands that law. Jury Teams, sensible people that have good listening skills and can’t be swayed by ploys used.

I don’t understand carbon shares, isn’t this like the whole “money comes from debt” thing? I own 2 shares in that shrub so I’m all good, might go for a fly over in my private jet and take some photos of it.

And shouldn’t company’s be “carbon positive” not neutral – what is the point in that?

Can I ask why there is state law and federal law? Is this better than one law for the whole country, especially one with a relatively small population like Australia?

I’m still sending it all to Kevin. Unless UOG gets all flirty again, I’ll edit that out.
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 15 May 2009 1:04:01 PM
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UOG: “The judge sit's back and says,“well look...the charges,..even though their not proved….must be true.”...guilty”
That was scary. So if you are a defendant always bring something and never be silent?

I gave a judge in NZ the giggles once, he fully giggled right there in court. My ex partners lawyer suggested since I was fully in charge of my children’s lives of course they said they wanted to stay with their mother. I asked the lawyer why they would bloody not eat their vegetable if this was the case.

Then the lawyer put forward the fact that because I foster babies and own pets my children’s lives were surrounded by sh!t (hey the lawyer said that word) so why would I care if the fathers house was unhygienic. Judge had a mental, he must have been having quite an emotional day

To be fair, I think my Ex lost not because he sat there saying “my children are important, I have taken them out three weekends in 8 years even though Julie kept trying to make me see them” but because his lawyer was so unlikeable.

The second judge (ex had too much money) was great, he said yes you can move to Australia but not until he had interviewed the kids (14 & 15) himself for about an hour. He told my ex in court that I (just me) had two extremely intelligent and lovely children and to say goodbye to them but to write and visit often.

When a judge says something it just stays with you forever.

Third Judge said kids couldn’t have anything from their fathers Will because I had left NZ in 1996 and never let the kids have anything to do with him. Wish he’d talked to the first two judges. I think I lost 40,000.00 last year because my lawyer wrote 1997 instead of 2006 somewhere. I am told no grounds for appeal. I am okay with it, it was the fight that had to fought. Defending kids just has to be done whether you win or lose
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 15 May 2009 1:06:04 PM
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OUG: “currently.[4..th/hour]..alex is talking about how,child protective services franchise..is about getting bonus[from govt]..you effectivly are being used to create a clean title to the child they stole”

Do you believe this is happening? Should be stopped? Sacrifice for middle class and up? Society is its ethics and its faith or just how comfortable those with ethics and faith are? Content+Ignorant = a Manageable Society?

Would it be better to not stand under God? It doesn’t seem to be the same one for the state wards.

OUG:“ [think of it like washing/money through a legitimate/buisness]they are with you till the state has a clean title..[right to the child]then they are on-sold to those needing kids..[and wanting to pay for them]..anyhow listen to info-wars rebroadcast of it again in a few more hours http://www.infowars.com/”

Couldn’t find it, got to the site and then completely lost. Help? Is American CPS yes? Australia does many things the same, the Federal and State thing… follows America?

But it will be the govt. paying the NGO’s. Oh it still goes back in to the economy? GST and stuff?

Peter… How does a Republic function differently from what we are now?
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 15 May 2009 7:59:44 PM
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