“think of schinddlers list..[the movie]..a ritch capitalist who exploited..then saved people”

But this Schinddler wasn’t acknowledging he did wrong, he just started doing good then got upset at the end that he didn’t do even better. And with that I complete lost my train of thought. If you ever watch Gone Baby Gone please get back to me and tell me who you think was wrong or right.

"go to any church see the born again sinners..[or to aa watch those who reject/repent..the vile they did as addicts..[god loves a repentant heart]..we would be supprised at how may we would judge good..wernt..allways..good"

Yep, oh right… but isn’t what made them repent and hate the vile they did the fact that they were, at the beginning, good/innocent? The truly bad would not know to repent. This still isn’t making me understand why good comes from bad or that bad things happening to you made you a better person now. We don’t seem to have a comparison.

“[i myself stole stuff before the realisation theft is wrong..[we all grow-up...those who hurt others are childish..[they havnt grown up in their minds yet]..as for the denials as not valid..[we must agree to disagree]”

Oh me too... Sometimes they are damaged and can’t grow up though aye. Or no one showed them how - or do you think we all have the “how” in us?

“if i excuse/forget..the vile that was done..i would forget its learning...if i disbelieve that i know did happen..[i would have a basis to disbelieve others]but i know what i know.”

I think you could have read a book, let someone else that suffered teach you. You sound like you are trying to desperately see the bright side and I don’t want to rock that boat but maybe you could have had “knowledge” without the experience?

“i meant to post earlier in support of peter[and much he said]....[there is also that clause re..where divergent state laws fall subject to..[under]..fed law”

He’s cool.

“your standing would come via the act”

This I can’t grasp, I had some power but didn’t know. 350.

havnt seen gone baby gone[i chose not to watch sad or murder,or cop/alian/type movies

see that we fixate on doing in this life we bring into being[we are co-creators[god created the planet..but then we modified it,irrevocably

people dont understand this realm belongs to satan..[here is the only place where good and supreem evil can live in the same place]..here there are secrets...[in the next realms there is nothing that is not known/revealed for all to see...[no secrets whatsoever]

think..[if you believe in a heaven,..how in heaven they are all like you..nurturing,loving,supporting each other..simply..for the love of helping others

there is also hell..[in-fact there are many..'hells'..]..there is for egsample a hell for each aspect of vile,greed,stupidity that we humans can concieve..[as jesus put it..[our fathers..'house'..has many rooms

see in this dark realm of hell's..live those who reject love[god/good]

see that there is a vivasectionist hell..[where those ghouls who disect animal's[even humans]disect each-other for eternity..[who ever is the weakest vivisectionist 24/7..getds vivasecionised for eternity[see there is a racist hell,..a rapist hell,..a muderors hell,..a war lovers hell,..there are even vile deserts for those so despised they chose to live alone in the darkness

but know no one sent them there..[thier own love of vile leads them there..when they..'die'..[see that getting grace is as easy as giving grace,..to be forgien..[we first must forgive,..and many do,but equally many cant..[they thus draw themselves to the place of their love/hate[..because they are chosing to love hating]

as i have no wish to live in to live in the child/rapist hell..[thus i forgave my rape]..but they will..'love'..it..[i let it go..so when the time comes thats one hell i wont go],

i will all find out the reality in time,..but either way when we die more..[of the same]..we loved in this life]..will be given..[god gives us that we chose to love...knowing in time we all repent..[satate our vile/..chose to reject our love of the vile..and chose to love love/grace mercy forgivness in gods light....but often our guilt is so great..we chose to re-incarnate[to start afresh]

What we are suffering from in Australia is an illegal and dishonest reversal to Roman Catholic law. The most corrupt and unlivable places on earth, with the biggest differences between the rich and poor, are in South America, and parts of Africa. When the Roman Catholic Church opposed the first referendum to establish Australia the founding fathers had to make a compromise, and included S 116 Constitution. It says four things.

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion.

Or for establishing any religious observance

Or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion

And no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

The Commonwealth made a law establishing atheism as the official religion of Australia when it enacted S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 and created Gods, out of every Federal Court of Australia Judge. This is a reversal to the Baalist religion, with Gods everywhere a Federal Court sits.

These Priests of Baal, then made subordinate legislation, without any Parliamentary sanction, closing their Temples to any except the select few. This is Order 46 Rule 7A Federal Court Rules. The Religious observance the Parliament of the Commonwealth then established is that we must go and worship a Judge, in a Court if we want Justice. We must now engage one of their Priests who call themselves Lawyers, in order to have them intercede for us, just like the Roman Catholic Church has priests to intercede for their flock. Just the same as a Roman Catholic Priest, a Judge makes private Law against individuals.

They have prohibited the free exercise of Christianity, which existed before 1970, in New South Wales, where to go to court ( deliberately uncapitalised) was an act of worship. Before Judges and Magistrates there were two Justices of the Peace, and these were not lawyers, but lay people from the community, and if any property at all including a persons freedom, was at stake, a jury was mandatory.

We are now a Muslim or Roman Catholic, not Christian Protestant

Before the revolution of 1970, laws were enacted that made every one of us law enforcement officers. There was an incentive to be one, and the laws are still in place that say that when a criminal breaks the law, half the fine imposed goes to the prosecutor. That is unless you are a Police Officer. Gradually the lawyers have got a stranglehold on the law, and as I started using these laws, which are still on the books, as S 13 and 15F Crimes Act 1914 ( Cth) a Commonwealth law, they have managed to close off the Courts, ( deliberately capitalized) so we cannot bring sinners before Almighty God for justice.

You see Judges and Magistrates are sinners, because they are acting for Almighty God. Their fate is sealed. They are mocking the Almighty. They have sat themselves in the courts of Our God, as Gods, and do not observe the separation of powers mandated by Almighty God in John 5 verses 22 and 23. There Almighty God gave all judgment to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ himself said only his Father is good, and in Luke 12 Verses 10 to 12, forgives those who take his name in vain, but makes it quite clear that anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, will never be forgiven.

We have lots of Parliamentarians who are Christians, and lots who are lawyers. For 498 years lawyers were banned from Parliament, and Luke 11 verses 46 and 52 were law, and it was woe unto ye lawyers. These are the hypocrites Jesus Christ condemned. The breawk between the Roman Catholic Church in Rome and England occurred because Henry VII commissioned the Holy Bible to be published in English. Henry VII also took away the power of a Lawyer/Judge to forgive sin, and remit punishment. This power was restored to Judges by s 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976.

The English did not believe in jail. They felt it was much better for anything except murder to impose a fine, and for murder or treason, death was the answer

"havnt seen gone baby gone[i chose not to watch sad or murder,or cop/alian/type movies"

What is left? This movie is sad, murder, cop, no aliens. So far I am the only person that has ever watched it.

“…the same place]..here there are secrets...[in the next realms there is nothing that is not known/revealed for all to see...[no secrets whatsoever]”

Should some supreme being be kind of taking a look at this realm, giving the children a hand?

“think..[if you believe in a heaven,..how in heaven they are all like you..nurturing,loving,supporting each other..simply..for the love of helping others”

I haven’t decided on heaven, I know I’m not keen on the one with all the white virgins and they will get no support from me. That will be weird, if you like helping in heaven there will be no one to help…?

“there is also hell..[in-fact there are many..'hells'..]..there is for example a hell for each aspect of vile,greed,stupidity that we humans can conceive..[as jesus put it..[our fathers..'house'..has many rooms “

So like dantes circles again. Do you think there are different heavens?

“…rapist hell,..a murderers hell,..a war lovers hell,..there are even vile deserts for those so despised they chose to live alone in the darkness”

I do hope there is a hell for those that treated everyone as equal. Do you blame the person that chose to live alone in the darkness or the people that knew they were there?

“…but themselves to the place of their love/hate[..because they are chosing to love hating]”

Do you forgive the people if they carry on doing evil?

“…live in the child/rapist hell..[thus i forgave my rape]..but they will..'love'..it..[i let it go..so when the time comes thats one hell i wont go],

This is like the purgatory – everyone’s goes but some stay longer or they go there and stay for eternity?

“...but often our guilt is so great..we chose to re-incarnate[to start afresh]”

I am not going to want to come back here… but then yes, guilt will force me back to look after children.

Would you come back?

jewel<<Should some supreme being..be giving the children a hand>>..my understanding is in beween the realms is the sphere where..kids..are..[when they fully grow up they can chose to enter the darkness..or go to the light]

at no time..[till they..actually chose]..do they go one way or the other,..babies is different again..they are raised in a higher/heaven[taught by special-people..[i should imagine thats where your servises will be sought]..its a very special place

yes there are different realms in the heavens..[xtians have theirs, buddists,mono thiests theirs,etc..they may chose to intermingle or not[we have no real concept just how huge the heavens are..many rooms as jesus revealed,..is a gross understatement..there are in-numerable realms

here try reading this
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/newviews/gonewest1a.html

the link links to 5 other book readings
i would also recoment swedenborg..[heaven and hell]

i try not to judge others[..we all make our own beds..[so to speak]

as to spending eternity in one h or the other h..you will find as soon as we show the slightest SINCERE repentance,..we can earn our progression back to the light..[but it must by by a sincere form of atonement[at one meant]

and yes some decieve..[but in the end find they fooled only themselves[those truelly vile sink ever lower,..ending up in the pits..in total darkness..[that reads/feels much like a woumb

[where from all emerge in time..[and get a smack on the butt..[ie borne again]..if they stay there long enough..lol

[how it reads is angels are huge..[the more vile the smaller we actually are[..in size].each level we are smaller and smaller,..those in the pits would in reality be little more than the size of an ant[way beyond any ones notic..[except gods who yet even there sustains our lives]

many of us deliberatly decend into the pits.[thats how jesus came here]..and likely how we all got here..[but it washed our minds so..'clean'..[we clean forgot]

material evolution is a deception[science theory..[but spiritual evolution is a certainty]..we as humans are the highest evolution..[from here we can accend into the highest heavens..[or return as a beast],..[our loves determine which]..recall that'king'that was a beat of the field..[for 8 years]..from the old testiment