dear stg quote>>@underonegod>>
saintG clearly is dislectic..[lol],too

but we have the'pot'calling the kettle blacker

>>You're an illiterate nonsensical twat with a self proclaimed sense of self righteousness spruiking from a moral high ground you built on some fantasy reality...Shut up.<<

interesting saint g [you have noticed the topic?
could you reply to it?

i notice your brothers are posting re todays attacking point [excusing the collective mass murder of palisteins[presumably][based on the three respondants posting the hamas constitution,this being deemed by their masters todays talking point

i regard the hamas con..[at about the same level of believability as the proticols of zion]most likely wrote[rote]by the same hand

##it is funny to hear your high ground seems to be by in-validating me for daring to call murder what it is

its time you know the settlement/settlers are ruled by the talmud, which clearly you have not read[or you would not be defending those who murder others for peace?..for land?..for private settlements to practice on'children'abducted from war-zones

talmud deem's raping children under three as non-criminal][and those of concent[over seven? as being criminal for pasivity]have you read it?

you claim to be a xtian,thus have no clear concept of that your defending..[yet you cant post to condem or defend only to place a rather dull insult[if indeed a xtian you be,you must be one of those whose faith is weak..[but i doudt you ever read the bible]

for one of so few words[and indeed less opinion the question comes to mind about why post response to this topic[by comming here[a topic] on gaza,..yet failing to mention it at all in your response

one can only summise you came to offer support for murder of children[but because of my post about vile murder;couldnt post the response you were ordered to post]

lets see you come back and post to topic

as a xtian you cant condone murder[but your not xtian; are you] i lived in lota..[i think we well know each other]..its time to face what you are..[you cant do that to children]and neither can the settlers.

The message that I'm getting from the media
and the posters on this Forum is that neither
Israel nor Palestine feels that the other
side cares about its stories or suffering.

This makes reconciliation next to impossible.

They must move past using dehumanisation and
deligitimisation as weapons.

There must be a way for Israel to exist
securely while allowing justice for the
Palestinian people. There must be a
sustainable future for them both.

I support the rights of both Israelis and
Palestinians to live in peace and security,
but not at the expense of each other.

We need a radical rethinking of the conflict.

Preaching hatred, pointing fingers, trying to
justify one or the other side's actions with
accusations is not going to solve anything.

It's time that both Israel and the Palestinians
met face to face, listened to each other's
grievances, didn't play politics, and
negotiated with honesty. Only then, and on the
condition that both Israel and the Palestinian
state achieve safety and security will this
conflict be resolved.

When will everyone realise that there is no solution to the Israel
Palestinian dispute.

The Romans threw the Jews out around 63 AD and the Arabs moved in
some few hundreds of years later.

The Jews came back after almost 1900 years and said "We're back !"
The Arabs said hey, we have been here for more than a thousand years,
go away !

So you can see that a solution will satisfy no one and to top it off
they both want Jerusalem and both say you can't have it.

They are both driven by religion which gives them the right to their
demands.

So why don't the rest of us just shut up and let them get on with it.

It's ironic to see the Jews are fed up with Hamas and are now embarking of their own "Final Solution".

I bet they wish they hadn't help get rid of the more accommodating Fatah group that led to Hamas coming to power in the first place.

I gave up reading your dribble under one god, you make ZERO sense.

I'm not anything debating with an idiot that types xtian. What, is that a friggen martian or something?.

Dear foxy....

only a kind hearted Westerner with all the best intent in the world could say what you did:

"It's time that both Israel and the Palestinians
met face to face, listened to each other's
grievances, didn't play politics, and
negotiated with honesty."

Oh..I'm getting the very same message that you mentioned from the media also.

PALESTINIAN UN AMABASSADOR speaking "We must bring a halt to the cruel Israeli aggression" (add to this the obligatory mention of "women and children")

CNN INTERVIEWER "But Mr Ambassador, Hamas has launched many 1000s of rockets against Israel and the Israelis claim they have been living in terror for 8 yrs"

PALESTINIAN UN AMABASSADOR "If you want to talk about living in terror.. imagine the whole Gaza community being subjected to this inhuman aggression from terrorist Israel"

(that was a paraphrase)... bottom line..he just did NOT hear anything about rockets.. like 8000 of them.... 30 to 80 PER DAY launched at Israel.

For your comfort and encouragement.. when I attended the 'Free Palestine Rally' I made sure I asked them this 'WHYYYYY were you not on the streets protesting about the 80 rockets a day from Hamas into Israel"?

Needless to say, the response was pretty much "Ohhhh that's all BS.. blah blah..party line.. blah blah..Israel...terrorist state..blah blah...don't talk about history..blah blah.. women and children... blah blah"

Your impression from the media is quite accurate. Mine from the STREET is this:

All the protests and public demonstrations are driven by one thing..EMOTION'....but little fact.

Let's not forget, that the world wide network of socialists and Islamists always seek to put on a big show at moments like this.

I stood as a lone voice of balance at this rally "Condemn EQUALLY the rockets AND the Bombs"...but was met with "It's allll bs/Hezbollah will finish/fix u u scum" (from a 'lady':)