runner,

I lived in Singapore for four years. The country is not as free as crime as you think. And having spoken with sevral Singaporean taxi drivers over the years, I have learned there are several unsafe places. Beauty World on Bukit Timah Road at night, for instance.

Would you accept being canned for a traffic or parking offence? Surely, if corporal "is" to be used it should be aimed at adults not children.

It didn't escape my attention the hypocracy of Australia being helping the US flatten Vietnam, when the school principal used physical punishment to curtail fighting, in the same era. Moreover, say, someone hit me and hit back that would not be tolerated. But what if I were (I didn't, of cause) give a teacher a black eye? Would he/she take as a minor incident? Probably call the Police?

I think neither the cane or the PC pandering or their like, both are pretty destructive in very different ways.

In my last year at school, I wanted to find out what the cane was like, but I'd been such a goody goody, that I had to be quite bad, before I got it. I had expected something much worse. I could see why the really bad kids treated it as a badge of honour, but I'm sure the fear of it kept most inline.

Some really do need it. I raised four kids. Two of them would cry if I roused, or even frowned at them, I had to be really careful. One however, was a real sod. I should have belted him black & blue. I would of course, have had to kill his mother first. She fell for all the PC rubbish, a real true believer.

He, & I'm sure a number of others are lucky to be alive, such was his lack of respect for road rules.

It took 4 years of navy training, & then a couple of years of being responsible for others, before he developed some of the self control a bit of cane would have instilled in him, years earlier.

Yea, bring it back, quick time.

Oliver

you ask 'Would you accept being canned for a traffic or parking offence? Surely, if corporal "is" to be used it should be aimed at adults not children.'
In the vast majority of cases if the child receives corporal punishment little to non is needed as they mature. However those who don't receive corporal punishment turn out to be violent and uncaring.

I have spoken to a large number of criminals who laugh at how easy the system is. They have no remorse for murders, rapes or violence.

In answer to your question I think the cane for traffic offenses is over the top. The punishment must be in line with the crime to be just. The pendulum has swung much to far in the favour of the criminal rather than any consideration for the victims. This starts at an early age where young children continually test out boundaries. By far the most well adjusted and happy ones are those who know their boundaries.

Does anyone know how the Lebanese gangs are going in our schools?

Id be interested.

I sometimes hear 'background' stories about how the Lebanese youth disrupt schools and threaten high school students in Sydney (my boy told a few stories, a decade and more ago).

My high school teacher friend likewise says that the male Lebanese students have very little respect for Anglo women teachers and that they constantly rattle classrooms with macho behaviour.

I feel governments ought to look into this disruption as part of the overall view of the growth of Islam in Australia.

Islam is of great concern to me these days.

Bit by bit we are losing what was good about Australia to a quiet global plan that involves encompassing all other beliefs.

Ok Gibo, This time I am going to back you up to a certain degree.

While I'm not opposed to parents using corporal punishment in general, I am opposed to parents smaking children out of anger. For that reason I wouldn't complain too much if it was banned.

Caning in schools was a different story. The principal had to write the punishment up in a book, it therefore was his responsibility to justify the punishment and this took away the danger of caning out of anger.

Caning as a punishment on its own was useless with the tough brigade however, they used to have competitions to see who could get the most canes in a year. These trouble makers should not be given the satisfaction of getting the cane, but made to do other useful duties such as picking up papers.