http://www.abc.net.au/news/tag/animal-welfare/

To say who ‘cares’ is irresponsible. It gives a false impression that this type of campaigning is in the past – which sadly is untrue.

You stated AAQ work united with RSPCA QLD- when their web sites reads the opposite. Your information was misleading and dishonest.

It also unfair fair to AAQ itself because whatever they believe they have the right not to be misquoted.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24411799-2,00.html

http://www.animalliberation.com.au/otherorg/action/barnlaid.htm

http://www.rspca.org.au/policy/d.asp

http://www.animalliberation.com.au/otherorg/action/barnlaid.htm

The links above show a long record of inta fighting between RSPCA and Animal Liberation groups who support vegetarian diets only.

Before we get into much more we should ask ourselves who has exposed acts of gross cruelty that otherwise would have probably gone unreported.

* By large we believe that would have to do be the Animal Liberation groups throughout Australia as well as individual members of the public.*
‘However the political slant on Animal Welfare in general must be addressed.

So if the peak group Animals Australia AL and the other 40 or 50 animal welfare groups who work with them will declare their position once and for all it would be a big step forward.

As Animals Australia have pledged themselves as the other peak body for Animal Welfare (together with Animal Liberation) it would seem we are badly in need of their organisations to come out and declare they are “not ”a vegetarian group ‘ OR they are.

The views of the 96% of the main stream Australian public must be represented.

And it’s important they stick to which ever one they choose both publicly and privately as a matter of policy once a for all.

If they have been so vocal against RSPCA and especially Hugh Wirth why did they unite with him with HWC?

The only head to push the co joint ventures working with Farmers and Muslim Leaders of Australia was once again the RSPCA CEO QLD Mr Mark Townend.

RSPCA QLD CEO has often said until Animal Liberation and others work WITH RSPCA to demand better laws to protect animals the animals will continue to suffer.

PALE, I am sick to death of this, and of you, and not prepared to argue this rubbish with you any longer.

Nicky

There is nothing to argue about. I corrected your post where you claimed AAQ work united with RSPCA QLD nothing more.

You see unlike you we encourage anybody and everybody to show an interest in Animal Welfare and the more the better.

Now as far as the bone of this thread goes RSPCA wants more control over puppies exported.

I already pointed out the X Ministers advisor denied puppies were exported ( dogs etc from Australia to Asia.

That was raised at a meeting we held with federal Government before the of parties.

I named the person several times so if you really cared you would thank me for that information and the fact we took the time to call the meeting in the first place.

I think Hugh has had twenty years to raise this and he knows the Aussies love dogs puppies.

He knows full well all hell would break loose if he gave it up to the public through the media.

So why havent we heard him doing this earlier.
Of course! they are selling them for commercial purpose.

bUT before giving RSPCA National more control lets find out if they are going to hand that backk in the form of a MOU with DPI AQIS like live exports etc

PALE, you do what you want to do. I'm not debating anything with you any more. It's just too tedious.

Nicky

It would certainly be better if everyone concentrated on the puppies- including Hugh and RSPCA National.

It is to your credit you raised this important issue.

This is all Hugh or RSPCA National has to do. =

* Ask AQIS for a copy of their consignment papers.
.* That way they CAN be traced.*

Surely if the RSPCA National requested copies from AQIS it shouldn’t be a big problem.

Hugh would know he could always speak with the: Special Ministers that report directly back to the PM working with RSPCA if AQIS give problems obtaining copies of paper work.

Once obtaining copies of the paper work (tag batch numbers) they or anybody else can trace them to see where the puppies ended up.

Naturally this would have to be an ongoing arrangement not just a one off.

Perhaps Hugh could then share the information with some of the Handle with Care HWC members he ‘claims to have united with.

We spoke with very nice lady (who was in charge at the time of the area in AQIS) where any dogs over a year ago. She told a different story to the one given us by Anne the then Federal Minister advisor for Agriculture =

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We took a call from a dog lover and reporter back then very keen to get to the bottom of the truth about Australia exporting dog’s puppies. Sent that information others.
Many old media icons and dog lovers are interested to get to the bottom of this.
I hope your friends are following up on it.

PALE, you are the one claiming an association with the RSPCA, I suggest that you use it.
Nicky