I cannot believe that people would accept painful ear tags for puppies like they do for other "livestock" (note the distinction). What is wrong with microchipping for all domestic animals? Nah ... it's easier to attach painful, possibly (mooted) multiple tags to sheep, cattle, pigs and goats.

Nicky

Nicky

I was refering to the 'same' tags used by RSPCA and vets for dogs at present.
If we dont get a Bill up running on this one its going to become no different to the export of goat sheep etc.

So just for once can you try not to go into beef up mode towards us.

There is no one person or organisation that can get things done for the animals.

The only way is for everybody to work together .

I have absolutely no idea what sort of tags you are talking about, and as usual there is no clarification, but microchipping is the only permanent means of identification/tracking. It should be compulsory for all dogs and cats as a minimum, and is, in many jurisdictions, for dogs at least.

I was referring to the ear tags that are essentially stapled into the ears of "livestock", which would attract cruelty charges if it were done to dogs.

Nor is it true to say "everyone must work together". Different groups and different individuals have different ideologies, philosophies and strategies, and they work (in almost all cases) in harmony with, or complement each other.

Nicky

Nicky
If you read the report from Farmers on line you will see they claim to have made a major breakthrough with tags allowing them to know the whereabouts of animals.
Now I am sure they didnt do it with puppy mills in mind- but there should be little reason it could not be modified.

Given that there are claims by officials we have no way of tracking puppies/ dogs being exported from Australia it seems worth a look.

It really seems to me that no matter what I comment on - you simply wish to be disagreeable and attack every thing suggested

May I draw your attention to post above disclosing our meeting with federal Government where this matter was raised.

It`s gone over your head that the Federal Ministers advisor declaired no dogs puppies *were sold/exported for the purpose of food*.

May I again try to point out to you -

Given they have *already stated they have no proof or evidence* *thats a mighty funny thing for a Federal Ministers advisor to assure anybody.*

Whats standing out like fish out of water is your lack of interest!

As for your last comment sadly nothing could be further from the truth.
Even Hugh Wirth addressed the National press on the long standing inta fighting between Animal groups.

Its been that way we were warned for over twenty years so we are looking at the heads who have been there that period of time.

Its a know FACT that there has been a war between RSPCA and other Animal groups trying to take over to the point RSPCA

It got so bad they had to issue a warning publicly to board members.
Not to mention a five page thread in the Australian + The four corner Blind Eye- So whom are youi trying to kid!

Here we are- your favoured web site=

http://www.liveexportshame.com/publications/alv/Writers%20Group%20Newsletter%206.pdf

http://www.rspcawatchdog.org/home.htm

I posted the AAQ site up last time you mislead the public.
Do you want me to repost it- or perhaps others.

Or, can we move on help these animals.

PALE, are you telling us you see something wrong with the efforts of the ALV Writers' Group? Seriously? And nothing wrong with the actions of the RSPCA in the matters mentioned in that Newsletter?

And you have a problem with "A Blind Eye" reporting on the conflicts of interest in the RSPCA? Only last week it was revealed that RSPCA NSW is under investigation over just that issue.

I take it you are therefore against any form of bringing gross animal abuse to the attention of the public. In fact - perhaps you are, because I don't see PALE doing any of the hard stuff.

As for misleading the public, you have turned that into an art form.

As for translating sheep ear tags to puppies ... I can't wait to see that. Microchipping should be mandatory for all puppies (not useless tags which can be removed at any time).

Nicky

Nicky
No I was pointing out your dishonesty by your claims in all or most cases groups work in harmoney to compliment each other.

For twenty years prior to our organisation opening there has been NOTHING other than inta fighting and disunity.

Harmoney thats a joke! Its anything but and we were targetted right from the start being seen as the enermy because we chose to work with RSPCA QLD.


We support many organisations and in fact some of my personal best friends are indeed with AL.


I think the blind eye was needed and I have no problem with anybody highlighting animal cruelty.

I have also gone on record now many times pointing out whilst we are lucky at the moment with our CEO RSPCA QLD -there seems to be some loose ends about the structure of RSPCA National in general.

Nicky you really have a problem and few people working in animal welfare do not know you.

Nobody wants anything to do with people who just wish to cause trouble.

I have broken my promise and tried to include you in my posting but again I must say its not in the interest of animal welfare to contiune. Your only agenda is to cause trouble .
Do not address any further posts to me and do not follow me from thread to thread as you have for three years.
I will not reply.