*Spain has bull fighting are they barbarians?*
Belly the act itfelf it YES. Sticking spears into Animals to terrify them and make them outraged by fear and pain IS!

My God your not going to tell us you think bull fighting in Spain is OK Are You?
Judging by your next comments I guess you ARE>

*Asians eat Monkey brains from live animals are they too less than us?*

*Some cultures nail a duck or goose the the floor and force feed then to get that special flavor.*

Yeh thats right belly Dickie was telling you about force feeding.

The only thing thats good about that is that YOUR eating it.

CJ Morgan Dickies post isnt racist and she made a point of saying many Chinese are fighting for both human AND Animal Rights. You see normal people cant see any difference.

*It's reminiscent of PALE&IF's nonsense claim that Islam has taken over Australia's shopping centres*

Morgan you really SHOULD consider posting under the name of Moron.

I dont know HOW MANY TIMES I must tell you pales happy! to covert all live exports back into Australia by reopening abattirs working WITH MUSLIM PEOPLE.

Just so long as the MOU of Animal Welfare is abided by then I am as happy as Chips.

I have pointed out to the bible bashes that Halal meat in Australia will overtake our bolt method.

Mohamed was a smart bussiness man to make each animal require blessing( WHICH S A STEADY FLOW OF INCOME BACK INTO THAT PARTICULAR ORGANISTATION-) unlike our Churches.

As far as I am concerned if the Muslims are the only ones prepaired to slaughter in Australia and export to the world- God bless them.

If Muslims are the only ones wanting to create employment God bless them again.

Also if they are the ony ones producing healthy disease free products for Australian familes Praise Allah.

Only a fOOL would rely on another country to feed itself

Pale

I agree with you - Australia has really betrayed its agricultural sector. We go on about national security issues yet the greatest threat is through the food chain or losing control of our food chain and the impact on the environment of importing food. It could be potentially devasting to import a disease or bug into the country with irreversible effects not to mention the notion of being dependent on an overseas nation for the supply of food.

This is happening in Africa where GMO crops are replacing local native produce and being shipped offshore while the locals, who were once self-subsistent, now rely on imported products which they can ill afford.

Certainly we could process HALAL meat here and ship it overseas to those countries who cannot supply their own meat. I would rather see all nations produce their own food and perhaps import prodcuts only where the environment cannot sustain local production.

Or go without. When I moved from the tropics to the south I did not taste a mango again until many years later. From the enjoyment of childhood gorging on freshly picked mangoes free from the tree to a supermarket version twice as old and twice the price. I survived. :)

It is interesting that some people believe to care about animals is to forgo the care of humans. You can care about both. For the religious amongst us, I don't think Jesus if he existed would have approved of blatant cruelty towards animals or to be the cause of pain.

To say the least of Human Rights,is a joke for some businesses in China.The theatre,and dance groups are a few whom suffer the hardship
s of long hours,long weeks,long days.These groups will work up to 20
hours in one day,and do this with a few shorter days in between.The
Government associated employers whom sponsor the dance groups,are the
worst.as they require long hours of travel,and long days of work time
which at times are spent doing nothing at all.In some areas its smart
to say you are working,even if you are just sitting around until the
showa begin.Then they expect their workers to still work another 8 h
ours,after they have spent all day,practically doing nothing,but havi
ng to be on the work site anyway,or they do not receive pay.This is a
jungle which the workers are subjected to.Sometimes they are at a dan
ce location all day,the performance does not begin until 8 p.m.,and
then at times,told to go home,and return the next day at 8 a.m. again
to wait the whole day.this is only one small actual work day.You woul
d not believe all the variances involved and how each traveling work
day,is so different from the next.Many times they tell you,you are l
eaving on the 19th,at 10 a.m. and its cancelled.Other times they say
you will leave at a certain time and day,but do not know the time
or the day.They say they will call you.The schedules always change,
in one form or another.They can be called in to work at 10 p.m., if
they want you,without notice. The private companies have little rega
rd for exact information,and coordinating days and times,and places.

The live export cabal has returned, setting upon their scapegoats by casting the original ad hominems then corruptong the thread by tossing in a few red herrings.

Another unprovoked and spiteful dig at PALE Morgan? Ah yes….that’s right, chilled and frozen meat exports from Australia would also place a big dent in your ill-gotten gains.

“…. but they've come a long way very quickly as the Chinese economy has strengthened. In time, I imagine that their industrial conditions will be on par with ours.” (CJ Morgan)

Of course, silly me, it’s the economy stoopid! Well let’s not debate the ethics or morality of such an economy – human rights is a mere peccadillo for this gentleman. And animal welfare – CENSORED!

Effective criticisms would see Morgan’s profit margins drastically reduced so why should he allude to the issue of a surging increase in human rights violations or dangerous and corrupt business practice?

http://thereport.amnesty.org/eng/regions/asia-pacific/china

“ I am almost sure the thread was meant to be a lot more than animal welfare.”

True! Do you have trouble with comprehension Alan Bell? Four links offered in two posts? Hardly a take-over when there are some 38 posts here but of course this strategy of yours is regular and tiresome as you trail after Morgan lugging his heavy load of umitigated swill and besides, animal cruelty is indeed profitable so you’re here to protect your interests, however, you are a traitor to your union.

http://www.historycooperative.org/proceedings/asslh/jerrard.html

Animal issues ARE relevant to this thread. Australia’s live exports are returned as canned meats for humans and pets and let’s not forget the milk. Some 53,000 babies ill with some 12,000 now suffering kidney disease. All “Made in China” milk products have been removed from Australian shelves.

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE48P1C720080926

http://www.aplus-flint-river-ranch.com/define-menufoods-petfoodrecall.php

Unless you have something sensible to say Alan Bell, cease attacking people concerned with the welfare of commercial animals! Your improper stance of refusing respect to the lives and needs of these animals is well known on OLO so off you scuttle to your subterranean cavern now......you can use Morgan’s hanky!

Yes Dickie my name is ALAN BELL! do you want to know my address?
Both you and PALEIF have used insults yet again in this thread, calling one poster a moron.
Are only men to display good manners?
I in no way support cruelty to animals ever, by any one.
Bizarrely coming from union background I have never seen more lies and half truths, more pure emotion used in the name of a cause than the animal rights movement in OLO not all Nicky and PF at least do not rant.
I have read every one of your posts too Dickie, once they displayed control and understanding, not now.
I actually give to some animal rights movement when I get the chance.
Have you seen my often quoted belief that some unions do more harm than good?
I truly honestly without any spite am convinced Dickie you and PALEIF fit that group, doing more harm than good for your cause.
Please other posters do not mistake this for anti female, it is just the idea that shouting stamping ones feet and changing the subject is something some, not all women use for debate.
China is improving every day, its people are no less or no more than us.
And to talk of Bible bashers in the same post as talking to God is , well why bother.

Belly: << I truly honestly without any spite am convinced Dickie you and PALEIF fit that group, doing more harm than good for your cause. >>

Quite so, Belly. Those last sprays from them are classics of their deranged approach to debate. I gave up long ago trying to engage in rational discussion with them, but I do reserve the right to point out their more egregious excesses - such as dickie's blatantly racist comment about "barbarians" and a "depraved race".

Anyway, I'm off bush for the week, so I'll leave you to it.