C J Morgans question is valid.
Why the intense racism?
Is it that only WASPs get it right? that our culture is right others wrong?
China is not just about animal welfare, surely every thread is not to be diverted to that subject?
I too have concerns about the safety of some Chinese imports I ask can it be some workers in China know its export?
Is it like shearing shed hands who once deliberatly put black Polly rope in our export wool?
Or those who packed used news papers for all the Pacific Islands and packed out of date play boy magazines inside?
China like it or not is a better place than it was ten years ago.
If right now this instant we stopped all trade with China buying and selling, we would be a third world country forever.
How many of us do not agree animal cruelty is wrong?
How many think the heated insults in threads about that subject, even words of hate against some of our own country men, ever win support for the cause?

I am twix & between on how to comment on this.
SOS Student has some valid comment.
I have had a small amount of business dealing with Chinese and it
confirmed the comments of a friend who has had a lot of business
dealings in China.

If you deal with them the concept of fairness is very far from the top
of their agenda. Make sure you have every i dotted and every t crossed.
They will take every opportunity to rip you off.

Generally if you have it locked up tight they will comply to the letter
here in Australia as they know the courts will not play ball.
That is not so much true in China itself, but I have heard it is
improving.
It is the cultural business ethic.
They seem to treat their employees with the same ethic.
They are also very racist in their pricing and negotiations.

However globalisation is coming to an end with oil depletion.
Already container costs between China & the USA is pushing trade in
large lower cost items such as furniture out of the US market.
The problem with the Australian governments (both parties) is that
they take no heed of the differences in pay levels and just expect
Australians to take home less or give it all away.

If I had my way I would saw off the rest of the world and only import
the very most difficult products to produce such as large passenger
aircraft. They won't be needed in the future anyway.

Hi SoS Student

You are correct when you say that not all Chinese are barbarians. There are in fact groups in China who are endeavouring to rescue these hapless animals from the barbarians.

The difference between China and the Western nations are the West’s regulations (slack as they may be) and the fact that China’s animal cruelty is ritualized – anytime, any place is where one can witness the gaping chasm of inhumanity that lies at the heart of China's philosophy and their appreciation of needless and gory mayhem.

All undercover footage exposing the barbaric practices in the West and elsewhere, are carried out by animal welfare groups. Without the dedication of these compassionate people, we would have no idea of the depths of depravity to which the West has descended or of how they greedily trade off the misery of other species:

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:K4F0cbkrM_4J:www.celsias.com/article/cruelty-video-prompts-recall-of-143-million-pounds/+humane+society+cattle+cruelty+pigs+video&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=au&lr=lang_en

The storm trooping bigots on OLO, goose-step from thread to thread to whack their opponents with a race placard, whacking particularly those concerned with animal welfare. Clearly, the bigots support animal cruelty. However, there appears a degree of dyslexia with these bigots, since, I for one, am well known on this forum for also describing the Australian government as “depraved” and “sadistic!”

Civilized humans understand his/her obligation is not to ill-treat a vulnerable being – human or non-human. The playing field is stacked against food animals where sportsmanship is a myth.

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Brought forward:

Despite the appalling record of human and animal abuse in China, our governments and their cruel connections continue to suck up to China.

"Because of our proximity to China and because of connections through things like mining and of course the imports we get from China we're well positioned to broaden that relationship into things like professional services and financial services," says Finance Minister, Lindsay Tanner, during which time research and development in Australia has been whacked, the manufacturing industry is a non-event and an increase in live exports sees further jobs going overseas while the majority of our exports are non-renewable.

It appears China is also heading into a real slowdown partly due to losing so much of its sales of consumer goods around the world. The States have lost nearly all their manufacturing and have been living on imports, mainly from China, just as Australia has done.

Bankrupted Smart Union, a Chinese supplier to the US Mattel toy company, has not paid its 6,500 employees in the export-oriented southern city of Dongguan for two months, the China Daily reported. Workers claim the owners have fled.

Last Friday about 1,000 workers gathered at the factory in Zhangmutou, before moving on to local government offices guarded by about 100 policemen.

The number of Chinese firms exporting toys overseas halved in the first seven months of 2008, compared to the year before.

China’s top export destination is the US and Australia is one of China’s top importers. Could there be trouble with the sleeping dragon?

Can the environment sustain this ravenous genus indefinitely? Are we all soon to eat "cake?" Hopefully Karma will sort that out soon for we must not place our trust in the unrestrained greed of our "empire builders!"

Its radical to believe that Chinese people know nothing of Human Rights.They just are not able to fight against this stalemate they are living in.Its possible and is,that many Chinese enjoy the five
day work week,and working only eight to nine hours a day.They are the
ones whom work for most affiliated American companies,and thus also
enjoy the similiar life style of most Americans.They do enjoy more
in their paychecks,and are with their families ,to have travel and
family outings.They enjoy the real expensive housing and transportati
on. They do work hard. Though working can bring forth another good
subject for discussion.

Made in China. Being American,we have most everything made from China
and its a no show for almost any good American product.We also have
the Australian Imports flooding the sales floors of most stores,as W
almarts,Targets,and many other discount stores.You can not buy a sove
nier from any state,without the Made in China.The wares which are sol
d in the states,are decidedly the same issue as the Chinese people m
ust buy themselves.The same inferior shoes,clothing,and electronics
as well.