Behold, the return of "Alf Garnett" in drag even though I socialise with Chinese people on a weekly basis. My very good neighbour is a Chinese scientist who shares her house with six other Chinese.

My son has visited China eleven times this year and my closest friend is Chinese/Portugese and we all continue to discuss (and criticise) the catastrophic issues on defective products out of China, which are capable of killing people – either in the short or long term.

I am reasonably au fait with the health and environmental ramifications of these chemicals where exceeding guidelines for the use of these toxins, is totally unacceptable.

China continues to compete on price, not on quality or safety or the integrity of the supply chain.

In August, US Mattel toy company announced that its Fisher-Price division was recalling nearly 1 million toys — 83 products — that were finished with lead paint. All were made in China. Prior to that announcement, 24 types of toys had been recalled in the United States in 2007, and all were manufactured in China.

In June alone, 68,000 folding chairs, 2,300 toy barbecue grills, 1.2 million space heaters, 5,300 earrings, 19,000 children's necklaces, and 1.5 million Thomas the Tank Engine toys were recalled.

In Europe this year, thousands of people who suffered severe allergic reactions after sitting on their "made in China" sofas were victims of a toxic gas emitted by an anti-mould agent. Hospitals across northern Europe have treated thousands of patients with symptoms which appeared to range from skin cancer and chemical burns to severe eczema.

More than 1,500 victims — including the relatives of two people who allegedly died as a result of their symptoms, have lodged compensation claims with British lawyers.

Professor Magnus Bruze, a dermatologist from Malmö University Hospital in Sweden, said that it could take weeks or months to become hypersensitised to the chemical which disguised the link to the furniture in many cases. He advised that once a person is sensitised, the condition remains for life and could expose them to reactions to other chemicals.

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C/F

Recently in China, 23,000 cases of low-quality or fake food were uncovered, requiring the closure of 180 food factories - bread with 50 percent paper-pulp content, pigs fattened on force-fed wastewater, lard made from sewage yet unethical practices continue in a bid to foil quality checks.

"Companies must move away from an all-China, all-the-time sourcing policy," insists Paula Rosenblum, managing partner of Retail Systems Research in the US. "Continual and increasing dependence on China as the sole source for manufacturing is a mistake waiting to happen," she said.

Pietra Rivoli, a professor at the McDonough School of Business at Georgetown University said expecting the government of China to solve manufacturing quality issues for importers is quixotic, she says. "There are few, if any, safety nets."

‘While the Chinese government has promised stricter enforcement of regulations, stepped-up inspections, and more-punitive actions against makers of substandard goods, it also has intimated that the debacle surrounding product quality was exaggerated by the foreign media. "The country's usual response to a scandal is to find a scapegoat," Rivoli says, pointing to the execution of the head of China's food and drug administration, Zheng Xiaoyu, convicted of accepting bribes linked to substandard drugs.’

”BTW calling people barbarians and bigots does not win them over either.” Let’s not muddy the waters here Fractelle. At no time have I called the Chinese “bigots.” The bigots happen to be on OLO – they call themselves "Australians." Who would want to "win them over?" They either directly feast off the misery of animals they export to the barbarians or are sycophants to that industry. They are indeed bigots.

My description of the Chinese as “barbarians” (those Chinese who commit dehumanised, despicable acts of torture on defenceless humans and animals) is correct.

How would you describe the Chinese methods of torture on humans? How would you describe the Chinese perpetrator who specialises in cutting the top from a conscious monkey's skull for his customers to eat the pulsating brain? Are you suggesting I lack diplomacy?

Diplomacy by the West is the precise reason why these atrocities continue.

http://www.humanrightstorch.org/news/guide-to-olympic-village-labor-camps/

What will become of the Australian farmer PALE?

He's going to know drought and famine and a great fuel shortage.

People are going to starve "out there" because the governments failed the people.

Thats also shown in
http://whatwillbecomeofaustraliajackburrell.blogspot.com/

They are failing the people right now.
Only prayer is going to save this country.

Gibo
Deary me pls read Dickies post again + some of the others.

Prayer Huh, thats whats wrong with you relgious gooses( No disrespect to the animals.)

If your lot got off their backsides and spoke out about this dreadful treatment of our animals AND tne conditions they are kept in before slaughter the world would be a better and safter place= AND we wouldnt (be eating products produced from China Poo!.

Nor would our Australian children face a future of being forced to eat products produced in the most dreaful unhealthy ways that we would never allow.

If only you guys would come off your higher moral grounds( You think) and got your hands a bit dirty doing some real work people in Australia would be FINE.

Dont you get it yet. ITS BECAUSE YOU HAVE REFUSED TO STAND UP AGAINT BARBARIC Cruelty to animals we have diseases.

As the book says you reap what you sew. Your lot have turned their backs on Gods Creatures so now you will.=

A Die because you cared so little about common deceny our food products were shipped off shore.

B Die from the diseases that are spread because you cared so little about the suffering animals in the first place.

I`ll pray all right.

Pray that some of your lot wake up before its too late.

God helps those who help themselves. Stop waiting for him to pop back to earth to clean up YOUR discusting lack of action.

That can only happen IF people like you wake up and see that Animal Welfare and the jobs the industry represents ARE connected with our HEATH WEALTH and survival.
Oh and another thing.

Gibo , let me ask you this. Do you know where bird flue comes from? (Speaking of China
* Where do you THINK this milk problem in China started from in the first place? Australia of course!

While you were so busy praying with your heads up your bums we were trying to get the Churches assistance to STOP live cattle being sent to CHINA in the first place.

dickie: << I socialise with Chinese people on a weekly basis. My very good neighbour is a Chinese scientist who shares her house with six other Chinese. >

I bet you wouldn't say anything as blatantly racist and offensive as this to her, would you?

<< This ancient "civilisation" remains a country of barbarians - a depraved race indeed >>

It's reminiscent of PALE&IF's nonsense claim that Islam has taken over Australia's shopping centres because her local mall's takeaways sell halal food, and then attacking other Islamophobes whose xenophobia isn't a great deal more extreme than hers.

On topic, I think Pericles and Romany have as usual made the most sensible comments here. Yes, the lot of Chinese workers is unenviable compared to most Western societies, but they've come a long way very quickly as the Chinese economy has strengthened. In time, I imagine that their industrial conditions will be on par with ours.

Undoubtedly, the same goes for their animals. I agree that external criticism might be useful, but the kind of outright racism expressed in dickie's comments is ultimately counterproductive. How can you hope to influence Chinese society by describing them all as "barbarians" and a "depraved race".

AH the red herring of that China thread again, lets ignore it so very much posted here is not worth reading.
Spain has bull fighting are they barbarians?
Asians eat Monkey brains from live animals are they too less than us?
Some cultures nail a duck or goose the the floor and force feed then to get that special flavor.
Yes not our way, yes even bad but can we judge others while not excepting they find some of our practices barbaric?
I am almost sure the thread was meant to be a lot more than animal welfare.
But that subject has been done to death in OLO and a thread devoted to it has stalled after 4 posts.
So we see yet another thread condemned to be hijacked and diverted by radicals who do no good for true animal welfare.
Again and again we see in posts the view if we do not think like some we are to be called names.
Some good informed posts have appeared in this thread quite frankly I do not see anything of value from animal rights posters here.