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Islam Watch refutes Irfan Yusuf on Ramadan Jihad

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Pale.. I recall receiving info from you about Paulines addy, but not about an invitation to something unless it was the same mail?

I don't respond well to pressure.. so give it a break ok... it's quite a while ago and I admit I'm a bit foggy on it all.

FRACTELLE.. when you say u were called 'evil' and a criminal atheist?.. err by me?

Umm no..I didn't ask you the same question....you asked me firstly:

Do you consider yourself to be meek, mild, loving and accepting of all others on this world?"

And I tried to answer it. It isn't a simple yes/no.

Then you said:

"others who have no argument with you except that they are different; gay, female or muslim."

Out of the 3 categories of person there, I have serious issues with:

a) The politicized Gay agenda
b) The politicized Muslim agenda.

The only place the female intersects with my political/theological/social is if they are pushing those issues. Gender matters not other than that.

Now..I went to considerable lengths to illustrate from contemporary events and theological writings (Islamic) and showed you a video of a man explaining, in my 2nd country WHY "Christians and Jews are cursed by Allah"

You had a whinge before about being called 'evil,Atheist,female'
Why don't you understand that a person feels VERY unhappy when a representative of the STATE religion gets up and explains why you are CURSED? (i.e. that Hussein Ye character)

PERICLES OTHER ERROR.
He made the classic error. Still stuck on "But Higgins was over-ruled in the supreme court"...NOOOO... and yes. He was overuled but NOT on that issue. Look at the academic paper I linked to.

<you unfailingly link the words you quote from the scriptures you select with 'All' Muslims.>

*tap tap*.. "where"? I link it to ISLAM as an ideology! The totality of the Muslim community will be all over the place relative to this ideology.
Posted by Polycarp, Thursday, 16 October 2008 5:10:43 PM
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Getting coser, Boaz, but not close enough.

>>I link [scripture quotes] to ISLAM as an ideology! The totality of the Muslim community will be all over the place relative to this ideology.<<

On the face of it, it appears to be about 50% of the admission I am looking for.

I will try again.

Your position is "if you do not believe these words that I quote from your own book, you cannot by definition be a Muslim". The other side of the same coin is that every Muslim must, as far as you are concerned, by definition be on a mission to kill all unbelievers.

If you are prepared to publicly repudiate your position on this, and from now on conduct any discussions on Islam in a scholarly, non-inflammatory manner, then you and I will have no issue.

Are you prepared to do this, unequivocally? It doesn't seem too much to ask.

Let's try a form of words:

"I, Boaz, do not attribute scripturally-based motives to all Muslims, and will in future refrain from suggesting that Muslims are required to kill non-Muslims."

You can do it, I know you can.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 16 October 2008 6:37:28 PM
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Polly nee Boaz

After extrapolating your mish mash of dictionary definitions, suspect personal anecdotes and qualified answers: "I have serious issues with:

"a) The politicized Gay agenda
b) The politicized Muslim agenda.

The only place the female intersects with my political/theological/social is if they are pushing those issues."

The answer to my original question: "Do you consider yourself to be meek, mild, loving and accepting of all others on this world?"

Is a resounding "NO".

How do you equate your lack of love for your fellow human with being a good Christian? You can't; your very reason for existence is based on your belief that you are the most self-righteous: way above those you "have serious issues with", for you to doubt yourself would result in a break down of, well, biblical proportions.

BTW: On me complaining about being called evil, you regularly bitch about being assailed, a case of massive kettle calling little pot. Advice: If you can't take it, don't hand it out.

Over to you Pericles, I am done here.
Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 17 October 2008 8:07:03 AM
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Thanks Fractelle.

>>Over to you Pericles, I am done here.<<

But I won't be much help in moving the discussion forward.

You see I'm...

...holding my...

...breath...

...for Boaz to...

...complete his...

...repudiation of linking...

...his hatred of Islam to...

...Muslims in general.

<<gasp>>

Nah, forget it. History tells me it ain't gonna happen.
Posted by Pericles, Friday, 17 October 2008 10:33:40 AM
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Pericles

ROFL

Life is too short

And

PollyB

is

too

long

winded.
Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 17 October 2008 10:58:34 AM
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Posted by Boaz

* Pale I don't respond well to pressure.. so give it a break ok... it's quite a while ago and I admit I'm a bit foggy on it all. *

David what pressure?
We asked you what is it that you do?

' Why is that such pressure to you .

In a few short words tell the olo posters what it is you think you do pls David.

Do you think your warning us against bringing too many Muslims to Australia for example? Its ok - You can say it if you do. Who knows we might even agree on some things you say.

Just be a man and speak honestlty.

Come on David stop running and answer the very simple question.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 18 October 2008 12:36:59 AM
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