Gibo,

I've seen you mention this China thing often and I guess what I want to know is: does it really WORRY you? I have no wish to engage with you about your religious beliefs, so if this is all part and parcel of those then I don't want to seem to be trying to change your ideas.

But if you actually find it disturbing then please take comfort in this:

as you know, I live and teach in China so...

a) I have researched pretty thoroughly from here and find absolutely no basis for the "map" story. As I said (and any pastor who can read Chinese will tell you) its a horribly complicated language so probably the Westerners you mentioned got the Chinese characters mixed up somewhat.

b) China doesn't have a big Army. Well, in relation to Australia it does, but as a percentage of its population it's certainly not big.To-day's kids are just not interested in joining.

c) The American Army spends more in one year than China has in the past 10 years on training, weapons etc.

d) There are no civillian or volunteer agencies such as Search and Rescue, etc. in China - so that is the Armies main occupation.

e) While Australia may be all-important to us, the average Chinese hardly knows a thing about it

f) The parents of to-days kids are too interested in getting them through Uni and into business even to dream of sending them to fight instead

d)Only last week there were articles saying how modern youth just don't take the military seriously, and

e) as I'm sure you are aware, politics interest most youngsters less even than the Army... and very few Chinese to-day even bother to join the Communist party.

You said you accept anecdotal evidence - so does that put your mind at rest just a little? If China indeed does take over the world one day it will be economically, I should imagine, not militarily. But with the current economic climate even that isn't very likely.

Romany.
Sure the China thing worries me.
Mainly because Australian people are ignorant of Chinas intentions.

I have no bone with the ordinary folks (love to see more become born again christians though).

For a few years now Ive been pretty well up on Chinas military growth so I generally know what shes up too.
She steals many of Americas nuclear weapons secrets.
She tries to buy out the technology at Metal Storm (will steal it if she gets a chance).
She will be trying to steal the Fusionmans wing soon.
Shes got over 1,000 spies out here in OZ (God bless you Chen Yonglin for saying what you said) and theyre not out here for anything other than what theyre really out here for...gathering info and photographing us and what we have militarily.

My knowledge is also supported by what the Holy Bible says about the group of asian nations called THE KINGS OF THE EAST.
China is going to be the head nation when the great outward march begins.

Ive also seen many Christian prophecies about China and I believe them all.

I know her aggression.
Ive seen what she did in Tiananmen Square. Neither was it pretty nor was the denial that went on for years afterwards.
Shes still in denial.
Ive seen what shes been doing in Tibet.
I know what she does to Falun Gong. I know what she does to her Christians.
I guess a "teachers-world-in-China" doesnt allow for much time to reflect on all of this?
Im sticking with the stories of the maps of Australia in Chinese classrooms that refer to OZ as NEW SOUTH CHINA.

You sure you havent been there too long?

The Chinese government has many internet operators pushing pro-Chinese government propaganda...much of it abuse of human rights denial stuff.

I've seen photos of what was supposed to be UFOs, ghosts and Bigfoot but that's not enough to prove they exist.

Seems to me that some people have a notion about something and sometimes try to find physical things to justify their personal prejudices or paranoia, whether they are second-hand accounts of sinister maps or images of the Virgin Mary on grilled cheese sandwiches.

Gibo,

That link doesn't work. I will be interested to see this though. I'm not saying that I believe in all these prophesies, but they are something worth knowing about, and I won't discount them as rubbish.

What you have said about Indonesia is very interesting, especially after I found that article on the Green Left website. The interesting thing is that Green Left is a Socialist, almost Anarchist organisation, but this story review was very similar to the prophecies you speak of.

As I've said before, 1975 was a time of real fear in Australia of Communist takeover. I was only a child then, but I can remember the fear that many had of Australia being invaded. The threat was real then. One of the things with end time prophecy is that circumstances change all the time, and ideas have to be reviewed. For example you say the mark of the beast is a microchip, In the 1980's it was considered to be a bar code tattoo, either invisible or visible. It may in fact be something else that hasn't yet been invented.

I'm not the sort of person who believes things just because a Christian told me so. Unfortuneatly some leading Christians have been known to be dishonest eg Mike Warnke.

Gibo, steel Mann and others I was around for 1975.
My memory is focused on a man know as Curr or some spell it Kerr.
I was a young activist but have no memory of fearing Indonesia.
We thought of that country as a threat yes, but then again the yellow peril has filled some with fear for more than a century.
I am a bit surprised some say that map never existed, it may well have the policy behind it did, still does for some.
I sorry Gibo give no credit to those prophecy's, none at all the world is full of them we never hear about the failed ones.
And surely you understand steel Mann is wise to not take every Christian as an honest person?
I feel as many bad eggs come via Christianity as any other thing that has the potential to make money

People with Gibo's condition will seize on whatever's current to fill their delusional schema. If this were 1988, he'd be posting about the prophecies of a Russian apocalypse. If it was 1938, it'd be the Germans (and he'd coincidentally get it nearly right).