PALE&IF: << Morgan
Again I must remind you pale does not post to you nor do we want you addressing posts to us. >>

Er, you did post to me, you goose. I'm entitled to post what I like within the rules, and so are you. It's up to you whether you respond to me or anybody else who points out your inanities.

I think everyone has the right to post to everyone else, and everyone also has the right to ignore others' posts. Maybe some of you might use your second right more extensively or these posts are going to get bogged down in personal exchanges that just make the forum unattractive.

Belly, I have run a poll on leadership, and it looks promising for Malcolm T. I'll have the report up later today and an OLO article for Monday.

Dear Graham,

I saw the tail end of a program on TV
last night where John Hewson was giving
his opinion on Malcolm Turnbull.

Interestingly Hewson felt that Turnbull is
merely a "fill-in" for now. That he
won't ultimately be the Liberal leader, but
that Costello will be.

It seems that Turnbull is not all that popular
within the ranks of the Liberal Party.
Hewson felt that Costello is sticking around
"for a reason." That he'll accept, once they
beg him to take over. Costello is it seems
(in Hewson's opinion) a more popular choice
within the party.

Anyway, I ended up by scrawling Turnbull's
biography on the web. I must say, it's
impressive. I learned a lot that I didn't
know previously.

The man, from his background, seems like a
very well qualified and capable leader.
But, a bit of a maverick - which is why
perhaps he's not so popular, within the
"old die-hard" network. A pity, 'cause
Turnbull would capture the imagination
of the young, and anyone with a bit of
"nouse."

He's far more impressive than stodgy, old
school - Costello (in my humble opinion).

It would indeed be an interesting race in the
next election if Turnbull was to lead the Liberal
Party.

Let us not think my ALP has lost my support, it never will.
But politics is not a game.
It is like it or not running our lives.
I have zero doubt, none, that Turnbull is the right man.
He will lead his party for years to come.
Our country and both party's for that matter need men such as Rudd and Turnbull to take us to new challenges.
Bad opposition leads to bad government.
Who can Dennie it was only after he got total control J W Howard lost the plot?
Work choices was a death knell for his party.
And my NSW ALP only got worse as the opposition did.
At a seminar for IR just yesterday it was made very clear to me that Rudd has no choice but to follow a new path.
That path is just one of the new directions we all must take.
Turnbull is a real chance if his party controls the very right.
Not next election but the next.
12 short months ago we lived in a far different country than today.
I still stand by my claim Labor will win the next federal election.

Dear Belly,

According to John Hewson - Labor will
win the next election.

He said that according to our past
history - all elected Governments in
this country have had two terms in office.
Except for one. I can't remember the one
Hewson mentioned. But you'd know.

Anyway, I hope he's right because I too
feel that Kevin Rudd deserves to be
given the chance to accomplish what he's
determined to do.

For the good of us all.

I've just been analysing the polling and you can see the first instalment at http://whatthepeoplewant.nationalforum.com.au/archives/003393.html.

I think a lot of people would agree with you about giving Kevin Rudd time, but I think a lot of people are also starting to think that he hasn't done much so far with the time that he has been given. If he doesn't get a move on pretty quick smart I think he could get into trouble. Support for him is soft.