My pastor spoke out on politics last friday night when he said he asked The Lord one day, some years ago in prayer, about politics and He said The Lord showed him a door with the name "politics" above it and when my pastor said he looked inside the door... there was nothing there.

I guess that says it all regarding politics for those of us who have their hearts and minds set on gathering lost souls to Jesus.

People come and go...one political party comes after another... millions of words are spoken...yet in the end only The Lord remains:)

<<"Turnbull's elevation seemed to have energised the small "l" Liberals who were...saying they were rejoining the Liberal Party.">>

Well, ONE said she was rejoining, but I agree that it probably represents a larger trend.

Whenever I read a breakdown of conservative philosophy, I conclude that I'm a conservative. The championing of freedom, removal of government interference and the pursuit of individual happiness are all high on my list of priorities. Then I watch the conservative political parties in action, and all I see is cynical vote-buying, fearmongering, lying as a matter of mere convenience, and an abslolute refusal to acknowledge that the world has improved in any way since 1955.

Turnbull's an arrogant bully, but if he can transform the creaking Liberal party into a genuine liberal party, he might get my vote.

Mr Turnbull seems similar to Malcolm Fraser. He is in the wrong party. He would do well to be with the Greens. Even CJ is reluctant to criticize him. Maybe their love of Henson art bonds them.

I think Mr Turnbull being the head of the Liberals will keep Labour in power a long time. Maybe Peter will come out of retirement and take the leadership when/if polls are not favourable closer to 2010.

Mr Turnbull is also on the global warming bandwagon. As the economies continue to crash the indefensible lies from the High Priests will be unpopular as people are taxed on the basis of lies. Hopefully a new conservative party based on a bit more substance and less spin (like Labour and Liberal) will spring up.

Alan Greenspan and others are talking about a once in one hundred yr global financial meltdown.People have traditionally voted for Labor Govts in really tough times,perhaps this is why Peter Costello is keeping his powder dry on the backbenches.Does he expect Malcolm to fail come the next election with people voting with the devil they know?

Peter Costello could well be planning for the following election since the harsh world of private enterprise may not well be all that rewarding in comparision to a comfortable Govt job.Peter may well be happy to sit on the back benches and wait patiently.

runner: << Even CJ is reluctant to criticize him. Maybe their love of Henson art bonds them. >>

You really are a dingbat, runner. Did you read what I wrote?

I have no liking for Turnbull, but I can objectively recognise that he has ideas and qualities that many voters are likely to find attractive. He's certainly the best talent the Libs have got.

You may be some kind of weird fundy prude who is still obsessed by the Henson storm in a teacup, but you seem oblivious to the fact that the wowsers lost that little spat. The majority of Australians don't share your prudish and godbothering views, including Malcolm Turnbull.

That only makes him more attractive to reasonable and educated voters - a demographic that doesn't include people like you.

I was going to follow in Col's footsteps and say that I don't know enough to really comment but that I like some of what I've heard.

Then I read runners post and if runner's agin him then there is probably cause to be for him.

Hopefully he will bring to an end the dominance of the coalition by the religious flat earther wanabe's. Fingers crossed.

R0bert