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Creation of a new State for the Aboriginal people of Australia

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The main point to be made re the creation of a new State for the Aboriginal people of Australia is;

It can be made as an offer to the Aboriginal people for consideration.
Because it is an 'offer of reparation' it does not need to be sanctioned by the Aboriginal people. They are free to accept the offer or reject it.
Posted by GERBRAN, Saturday, 16 August 2008 8:43:13 AM
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Given that recently I've seen signs on major roads near me.. saying "Welcome to Kulin country"....I thought it had already happened!

But... the main problem with such an idea are as follows:

1/ Most Aboriginal groups are tied to local geography...not to a sense of nationhood.

2/ If an area was given to 'them'.... which 'them' would run the show?

3/ Foreign interests would quickly seek to influence them against our own interests.

It wouldn't work.. and is silly to even consider.
Posted by Polycarp, Saturday, 16 August 2008 10:25:14 AM
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It must be catching on; our road signs here say "Welcome to our City of Geelong" too.

1. The Aboriginal system of nationhood is tied to the democratic ancient, cosmic laws dating back to time immemorial.

2. we would not be 'giving' anything...it has never been "ours to give" We "took it"

3. Ah ha there's the rub! You've hit the rusty old nail on the head. "Our own interests" have been the root cause of a nation's greed and their lust for power.

but thanks for your comment. June
Posted by GERBRAN, Saturday, 16 August 2008 11:13:44 AM
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Dear GERBRAN,

It will not work considering that the Indigenous
people are tied to their land through centuries
of tradition and heritage.

A prime example of mixing tribal groups, away from
their native lands, is in Kempsey, N.S.W.
This today, has created bigger problems then
leaving the groups in their native lands.

Another example on a larger scale is the former Soviet
Union and Yugoslavia, where different national groups
(tribes) could not exist together, except under severe
dictatorship.
Today, those unions have disintegrated as would a State
inhabited exclusively by Indigenous people of different
tribal groups.

It simply would not work.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 August 2008 3:53:31 PM
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So is this new state to operate with custom barriers and passports?

Wil this new "State" be beyond the ambit of the commonwealth?

Will it impose its own taxes and generate its own government income or will it exist on subsidies finded from the taxes raised in the other states ?

What foreign policy values will this new state adopt?

I would like to see a few unambiguous answers to a few simple questions before I comment.
Posted by Col Rouge, Saturday, 16 August 2008 4:01:38 PM
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Further on this topic...

We do have a "pseudo," Indigenous State in the
Torres Strait Islands.

And, if we move all the whites out of the
Northern Territory, the Indigenous people
will have their own State.

As far as how this State would function?
It would function as every other
State. Revenue could be collected through
tourism , native industries, mining, and
allocations from the Federal Government.

Was this a proposal that arose out of the recent
2020 Summit in Canberra?
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 August 2008 4:16:35 PM
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