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Creation of a new State for the Aboriginal people of Australia
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Posted by GERBRAN, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 9:39:42 AM
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I did look up Dr Hugh Schonfield and
I thought that my response (lack of it) regarding this issue was rather obvious. Whereas,I made it quite clear in all of my posts where I stood about the creation of a new State for the Indigenous people of Australia. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 10:44:06 AM
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Gerbran
Thanks for the links. I do agree that Aboriginal people should be able to take charge of their lives and that their self-esteem has been annihilated since white settlement, BUT I don't see how apartheid is a solution and I still can't get my head around this 'service nation' idea. Part of the problem is a widespread xenophobia where many people are incapable of accepting difference, be it race, culture, sexual orientation or religion. I know my achilles heel is formal religion, however I digress. Your links show that central Australia should be declared Aboriginal Nation. How do you propose that be done? Round up all people of aboriginal descent, place them on trucks and trains and transport them out there. Hmmmm, this scenario is reminding me of something I heard about that occurred in Europe circa 1930 - 1945. PS Apologies Foxy, but could you show me the post you are talking about because I can't find it - clearly a failure to communicate. Posted by Fractelle, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 1:07:42 PM
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Dear Fractelle,
There is no post. That's my point. I felt that the Servant Nation was not worth discussing. Instead in all my posts I clearly stated my position regarding the creation of a new State. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 1:58:45 PM
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Actually I misinterpreted the use of the word ‘servant’, mainly because of the way it was presented, as “servant nation” applicable to a particular ethnic group.
Gerbran is sponsoring for a separate state for aborigines. Schonfield was promoting a bible-backed version of ‘socialist internationalism’ where we are all world citizens and the 'nation state' does not exist. http://www.schonfield.org/12517.html lists Principles of the ‘Mondcivitan Republic’ you even get a bit of video too. It is the typical ‘airey fairy’ twaddle of those who actually think the meek will inherit the earth and everything will be eternally wonderful. It starts with a presumption to people not being what people are and would therefore founder because of what people are. It is full of aspirations and short on practicalities. It assumes the world is run on good men ignoring the aspirations of bad men, (like say Joseph Stalin or Hitler) To quote from the web site “The original constitution was suspended as it did not prove possible at that time to construct a nation on these” And it is not showing any sign of being resurrected. Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 3:21:06 PM
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GERBRAN,
So pleased to see you were able to resolve your problem with your browser. I had feared the worst. At the time of my first posting I had only attempted to use the first address for your website, the one given in plain text in your seventh post to this thread. Copied and pasted into the address bar, it for some reason didn't work. I have since used the same web address, given this time as a link in your ninth post, successfully. Fractelle, "Quite frankly I don't have the time: Whereas, Gumpp clearly has given his propensity for colourful bon mots." Where are the bon mots in my post here? I was just making observations. But punctuation, m'dear, punctuation! Should not the sentence above have appeared: "Quite frankly I don't have the time, whereas Gumpp clearly has, given his propensity for colourful bon mots."? To use a capitalised 'Whereas' is to use a very formal and solemn pre-cursor: a thing not to be undertaken lightly. "Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, ....." "Whereas experience hath shewn ......." Besides which, I've been busy involved in a carbon sequestration project for the last few months, which is why I had not been posting often over that time. Now that I have a little time off, I read before I post. I trust you don't begrudge me this, er, recreation? But speaking of bon mots, Belly came up with a beauty in his thread "Fuel prices and empty roads" with respect to Gods gift to Australian politics, Belinda Neal: "a woman as handy as an ash tray on a Harley". ROFL. Your encouraging words to him were not misplaced. On another matter: "Without really contributing much BTW.". Noted. [Forrest reaches for little black book, and writes.] Well, like Lennie McPherson, I have done the best I could with what I had. Let those who have eyes to see, see. I am currently experiencing deep, deep satisfaction, ifn y'all know what I meyunn. I shall say no more here GERBRAN. Good luck. Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 7:02:34 PM
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